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  1. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    Why are you accusing me of being a pharisee? Simply because I disagree with your position? You have failed to substantiate your claim. How does that make me a pharisee? You are parroting the false conclusion that this topic is intended to address. [
  2. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    St. SteVen said: How can you substantiate that? How does that substantiate this? (smoke and mirrors) ??? Fred J said: i believe in the spirit and according to the wisdom given us by All Scripture = Holy Bible, Jesus meant both...
  3. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    It's an interesting question. Some claim that every word of the Bible is the God-breathed (inspired) infallible Word of God. If so, why has humankind been slicing and dicing it up to meet their own objectives? [
  4. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Right in front of us this whole time. How did we miss it? Matthew 17:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.” Mark 9:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus gave them...
  5. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    ... "the dead" is a place. Matthew 17:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.” Matthew 27:64 So give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the third day. Otherwise...
  6. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    Chapter and verse please. Good find if you have it. Thanks. [
  7. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    How can you substantiate that? Playing the God card isn't enough. [
  8. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    Not as grounds for divorce. Leviticus 20:10 10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor— both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death. Deuteronomy 22:22 22 If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with...
  9. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Interestingly, Mark 9:9 uses horaó. Definition below. But the NIV does not use the word vision in the English translation. There must be a story there. Certainly all the contextual evidence points to an actual event. IMHO Especially Peter's offer to build three shelters. ◄ 3708. horaó ►...
  10. St. SteVen

    Every branch that bears fruit is pruned. - John 15

    I'm not sure sure. But I suppose it makes sense for the vine-dresser to identify fruit bearing branches and those that don't bear fruit. Those that don't bear fruit can be removed. (and set aside to be burned - yikes!) Those branches that do bear fruit would be pruned to maximize their...
  11. St. SteVen

    Every branch that bears fruit is pruned. - John 15

    Interesting that the fruit bearing branches get pruned. No good deed goes unpunished? Seems that growing believers aren't prepared for that painful setback. John 15:1-2 NIV “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every...
  12. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Compare. Two out of three? Matthew 17:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.” Mark 9:9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus gave them orders not to tell anyone what...
  13. St. SteVen

    Every branch that bears fruit is pruned. - John 15

    Are those prunes? Or don't you give a fig about this topic? - LOL [
  14. St. SteVen

    Every branch that bears fruit is pruned. - John 15

    A point that stood out to me from a recent sermon. - Are you being pruned? - What good fruit are you producing? - Why are you being pruned? - What does being pruned look like from a practical view? - What gets pruned (cut away) and what is left? John 15:1-2 NIV “I am the true vine, and my...
  15. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    I'm not convinced that God wanted us to have a Bible. It gets in the way of a personal relationship with Him. [
  16. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Honestly, UR does not fare well in debate. Unless a person has rejected Damnationism and Annihilationism, they aren't ready to accept Universalism. Frankly, the biblical case for Damnationism and Annihilationism is stronger than the biblical case for Universalism. Mostly because we got our...
  17. St. SteVen

    Was the Transfiguration a vision, or an actual appearance of Moses and Elijah?

    Pretty sure we're not on the same page. In general I have learned to avoid discussion with her. No end to the endless posts. Rather exhausting. I'm satisfied that I know where she is coming from. No need to beat a dead horse. [