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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    What I don't get is how you think you have figured out the millennium properly, and where all that is supposed to fit, when you can't even remotely figure out these 70 weeks properly and where all that is supposed to fit. And so what if there are other professed Christians that agree with your...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    I don't know if you are being serious or not, but math was my favorite subject, though. I enjoyed the challenge. I don't recall getting A+s, more like A-s through B-s, somewhere in that range. As to the OP, the following is something I have noted but I have yet to make perfect sense of it all...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    The consensus seems to be that Jerusalem and the first temple were destroyed in 587-586 BC. But even if that's not correct and it's 20 years earlier instead, even that doesn't help your interpretation one way or the other. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; Have you used this verse as an argument? The key phrase being 'your fathers'. In the OT and in the NT when that...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Wouldn't it be something if the events pertaining to the 7th trumpet involve far more than we realize? IOW, the final days of this age, followed by the millennium, followed by satan's little season, followed by the great white throne judgment, are all wrapped up in the days of the 7th trumpet...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    There you go then. Since that obviously is not an example of good logic, how is it any different if one is insisting that the trumpets and vials parallel? Seal 6 is when God's wrath begins, is it not? And that a number of us, including you, agree the 6th seal involves the 7th trumpet, right...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    It's sovereigngrace, or something along those lines in the event I did not get that entirely correct. I'm going by memory here.
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Douggg, I have been knowing both of them since 2009 maybe even earlier. Both of them were posting on the same board I was at the time. I was also aware of some other boards at the time where both of them were posting at, except I was not posting at those boards. I was mainly reading what was...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Look what your argument implies. If the beginning of the 42 month reign of the beast doesn't even begin until trumpet 6, for example, this means they get a free pass on vial 1. IOW, vial 1 is never poured out on anyone worshiping the beast during it's 42 month reign because it has already been...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    I do recall seeing those two posts. Let's be reasonable here. If you insist the last 7 vials of wrath begin with trumpet 1, produce the Scripture in Revelation that informs us that the wrath of God begins with trumpet 1. That's how Pretribbers reason some of these things except you are not a...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Some of this you brought up is Shepherd's Chapel teachings. Therefore, irrelevant, since some of us reject Shepherd's Chapel teachings. I recognize Shepherd's Chapel teachings when I see them. I have been aware of Shepherd's Chapel since the mid 90s. IOW, to use Shepherd's Chapel teachings as an...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Some of us are not so much disputing that some men are killed by fire. We're disputing the manner in which some insist that it happens, that it means the entire planet is engulfed in flames at the time. Which, BTW, if true, it contradicts the passage you submitted which you feel supports your...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Take the following, for example. If Lot and his wife were side by side when fleeing the area, and that when Lot's wife looked back after already having been warned not to do so, how is it that Lot's wife was reduced to ashes but Lot wasn't? Have you ever wondered why? Let's say Sodom and...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    One reason why it is nonsense is because, if true, this would mean the entire animal kingdom is wiped out, as in no more. There would be no way to preserve them this time around. Why did God want to preserve the animal kingdom during the flood but no longer wants to preserve them when He...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Try and do some comparing of things here and treat each account in the same manner. Have you ever thought of that? IOW, don't take it figuratively in one passage and literally in another passage when the same idea is expressed in both passages. To show what I'm meaning, consider what I have...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Who do you believe it to be? There is a chance I might even agree with you here, depending on who or what you propose is the bride of Christ. Edited to add. Ok, now I see where you said in an earlier post that you said it involves Isaiah 62:4. Had you said it involved the new Jerusalem, that...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    No doubt there are numerous interpreters that agree with your interpretation of verse 12. I do not dispute that. The question is, does the context support that? It for sure doesn't support it if verses 9-11 the context is the GWTJ. Nor does it support it if verses 9-11 the context is the...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Per these verses that you submitted, if verses 13-14 can be taken parenthetically, there is no issue here, that it can mean the ascension rather than the return and not contradict anything in the previous verses you submitted here as well. OTOH, if verses 13-14 can't be taken parenthetically...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    For one thing, assuming the context pertaining to verses 9-11 is the GWTJ, it is then preposterous, that per a context such as that, that what allegedly happened to the rest of the beasts earlier in history thousand of years earlier, that that would even be relevant at this point. Who would even...
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    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    While I do agree with you here, I certainly don't agree with your interpretation of Matthew 24:30 as well.