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The 2nd death was not applicable in Christ's case. The 2nd death involves being cast into the LOF. Christ was never cast into the LOF when He died. You can't have a 2nd death without a LOF. They go hand in hand. What the wages of sin are, is the 2nd death. Not everyone receives those wages...

Maybe you are right, I don't know. But one thing that seems rather silly to me since John only mentions a total of 2 resurrection events in Revelation 20, not 3 or more, that being the first resurrection and the 2nd resurrection after the thousand years, that he would neglect to mention the most...

I don't think it's reasonable that there can be 2 different sets of last days like you think there is. Unless you have changed your view on this lately but that I'm not aware you did. What in the world am I talking about, right? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. In the OT in Isaiah 2 and...

I view the last days of an era of time that began with the first advent, and that we are still in these same last days even now, and likely continue to be in them throughout the millennium that follows, and satan's little season that follows that, and the great white throne that follows that...

To add to what you said here, we also know it is including OT saints, such as Daniel, based on the following in Daniel 12, for one. Maybe some of it you will agree with, maybe some of it you won't. Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the...

Let's think this through for a moment. If one is convinced that the thousand years precede the 2nd coming, like Amils are convinced of it, it would then be preposterous for them to then agree Revelation 20:4-6 is pertaining to the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ. Because if they did...

Though, I don't agree with his interpretation of the first resurrection recorded in Revelation 20:4-6, the manner in which you insist he is applying is not the manner he is applying it, though. He apparently thinks John simply neglected to mention the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ in...

All one has to do is compare Revelation 20:4 with the following passages, like such, then think outside the box some, and if it wasn't already crystal clear what is meant in Revelation 20:4, it should be now. Unless of course, one brings doctrinal bias into it and places their doctrines above...

Let's be honest here. Amils are mainly the ones who are making the Bible contradict itself, in regards to your point here. Amil won't allow some prophecies to be fulfilled, thus making them false prophecies, the fact, per Amil, there is no era of time for these prophecies to be fulfilled. For...

No one gets a fair trial then, right? Even in the real world most are given the opportunity for a fair trial and that it usually involves a period of time more than a mere 24 hour day. And that's just one person being tried. But you would have us believe that Christ judges and sentences every...

Can you explain how the following is making sense of the text? 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his...

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Assuming Amil is the correct position, the last day meant here would have to be the same day Christ returns. The logic would then be...

Then if we toss NOSAS into the mix, what then? One can be blessed and holy one minute, have part in the first resurrection one minute where death has no power over them, then the next minute they are no longer blessed and holy somehow, the next minute they no longer have part in the first...

Roger, IMO you are not dealing with the point I was raising. My point had to do with this---and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth--and how the past 2000 years are describing this. For example. In the NT, where execute and judgment are used in the same sentence, it is found in the...

Pretribbers for sure cant because what they argue contradicts numerous passages. Not to mention, since no one can put on bodily immortality until at the last trump, and that the rapture involves the snatching up of people still bodily alive, how then can Pretrib reasonably explain how someone...

Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. Explain how this part was fulfilled when Christ walked the earth 2000 years ago---a King shall reign...

I'm not entirely certain, but this indeed may be the case. We have to assume a lot of nonsense otherwise, and we have to speculate about some nonsense on top of that. For example. The account says, their bodies, not their spirits or souls, is what came out of the graves. What bodies? They...

------------------------------ 605 B.C.-171 B.C. 62 weeks or 434 years 587 B.C.-538 B.C. 7 weeks or 49 years 170/1 B.C.-164/3 B.C. 70th week or 7 years -------------------------------- Let's think about this for a minute. Starting from 605 BC you have it involving 434 years of the 490 years...

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I didn't say you weren't a Christian. I said anyone that claims that label should not be interpreting the 70 weeks in the same manner unbelieving Jews might. It doesn't look good. This is basically what we have here. Let's call one side A) the other side B). Side A) includes Marty, plus...