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  1. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    The Cambridge Bible notes says: which is in heaven] These words are omitted in the best MSS. If they are retained, the meaning is ‘Whose proper home is heaven.’ Or the Greek participle may be the imperfect tense (comp. Joh_6:62, Joh_9:25, Joh_17:5), which was in heaven before the Incarnation...
  2. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    This was your answer to where in the Bible does it say: However, the verses you quote don't confirm God declaring that Eve "was only a part of Adam". It simply says, "Yahweh God made a woman from the rib which he had taken from the man, and brought her to the man". The rib was a part of Adam...
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    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    Just writing "One [being] in two different places does not make them two persons" doesn't make that true either. Thta says God drove Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden; it doesn't say that God drove mankind out of the presence of God. Moses said in Moab, Deuteronomy 29:10 (WEB): (10) All...
  4. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    Jesus and God are not one being! Where does it say that in the Bible?
  5. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I presume that you mean, are Jehovah's servants, or anyone, who lived before Jesus started his earthly ministry, going to heaven. I would answer no. Jesus said, Matthew 11:11 (WEB): (11) Most certainly I tell you, among those who are born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than...
  6. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Simple - a person with eternal life will never die. Revelation 21:4 (WEB): (4) He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away.”
  7. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Why do you keep mispelling immortal as inmortal? There is no such word. The dictionary definition of mortal is "subject to death; having a transitory life". Immortal is the opposite of mortal and means "not mortal; not liable or subject to death".
  8. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    The "Afterward", or 'next', at the start of verse 17, means immediately after the dead have been resurrected, those alive at the time of that resurrection, will be caught up and changed. The resurrection of the dead in Christ, and the rapture of those still alive occurs at the same time, when...
  9. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    All Christians will be resurrected and in heaven before the great multitude, mentioned in Revelation 7:9, are gathered. The Church doesn't go through the great tribulation - these people do. The opportunity for gentiles to be grafted into the Israel of God, to become members of the body and...
  10. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    This is what you said: So you did say that Jesus and the Father "are One", and added "being" to clarify how you interpreted it. That is not how it is writtten, there is no mention of "one being" in John 17 (WEB): (3) This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him...
  11. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    It was the only begotten son of God, Jesus, who was sacrificed (John 3:16). They are not two different beings. Jesus was a spirit being originally, then God changed his nature to be a human, and after his death God resurrected him and changed him again to have the immortal divine nature, so...
  12. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I didn't say that the second fold of sheep were Jews, I said that it was those that come to faith during the Millennial Age. I was not referring to the 144,000 sealed Jews and the great multitude made up of people from all nations who came to faith during the great tribulation. I was referring...
  13. keithr

    Body of Christ

    That's a classic example of taking a verse (in this case just part of a sentence) out of context and coming up with a totally incorrect idea/belief as a result! This is the whole passage, Ephesians 5:22-32 (WEB): (22) Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. (23) For the...
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    Which commandments in Leviticus are no longer in force?

    Hebrews 9:27 (WEB): (27) Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment,
  15. keithr

    Which commandments in Leviticus are no longer in force?

    We should follow Jesus' example, love our neighbours and be forgiving: John 8:4-11 (4) they told him, “Teacher, we found this woman in adultery, in the very act. (5) Now in our law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. What then do you say about her?” (6) They said this testing him, that...
  16. keithr

    Which commandments in Leviticus are no longer in force?

    This is similar to Leviticus 18:22 (ISV) - important enough that it is repeated?: (22) You are not to have sexual relations with a male as you would with a woman. It's detestable." Jesus said, Matthew 5:17-20 (WEB): (17) “Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t...
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    Which commandments in Leviticus are no longer in force?

    Galatians 3:10-12 (WEB): (10) For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, “Cursed is everyone who doesn’t continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.” (11) Now that no man is justified by the law before God is evident, for...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    John 10:16 (WEB): (16) I have other sheep, which are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will hear my voice. They will become one flock with one shepherd. You're still not explaining it! The two folds (not flocks) of sheep mentioned in John 10:16 are commonly interpreted to be...
  19. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I don't call making the claim that Paul was writing to the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation (not written until decades after Paul's letter), as explaining it well! Paul was writing to all Christians. There is just one faith, remember? (Ephesians 4:4-6). There is no hint that Paul was writing...