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  1. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    Why don't you want to believe what the Scriptures says? Whether or not you find it embarrassing or evil, it is what happened.
  2. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    If you want to think the best of the angels who bred with women, you could surmise that they had seen the fallen nature of humans, how that they were physically degenerating since they came under God's curse and started dying, and that the angels may have thought that if they took on perfect...
  3. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    When angels take on human form, normal people can not distinguish them from normal men (Hebrews 13:2). There's no reason to assume that if they took their clothes off that they would be revealed as not fully human! There is no need to make assumptions over whether or not the angels took on the...
  4. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    The Nephilim is the name given to the giant men that were the offspring of the mating with women by the angels which took on human form. Genesis 6:2 says: (2) God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives. Note it says "God's...
  5. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    So what do you think the expression "came in to " means? As in Genesis 6:4 (WEB): (4) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God’s sons came in to men’s daughters and had children with them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. which...
  6. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    Angels can take on perfect human form, so that we can't tell them apart from normal people. As Pauls said, Hebrews 13:2 (WEB): (2) Don’t forget to show hospitality to strangers, for in doing so, some have entertained angels without knowing it. God allowed the angels to take on human form...
  7. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    The angels took on human form in order to breed with humans: Genesis 6:2-4 (WEB): (2) God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives. (3) Yahweh said, “My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; so his...
  8. keithr

    Any thoughts on this? No exploding heads please.

    You're making assumptions. It does not say that Noah was the ONLY person who had been uncorrupted by the cross breeding by the sons of God (fallen angels); it just says that he was perfect (without blemish) in his generations (genealogy), and that he walked with God. If you want to make...
  9. keithr

    Joseph and Benjamin – Jesus and his Church

    [Continuing...] The name Asenath, the wife that Pharaoh (God) gave to Joseph (Jesus), means "gift of the sun-god", and Asenath’s father’s name, Potipherah, means “he whom the sun-god gave”. The name that the Pharaoh gave Joseph, Zaphnathpaaneah, has been variously interpreted as, “treasury of...
  10. keithr

    Joseph and Benjamin – Jesus and his Church

    There are no replies or comments to Ben Abraham's thread ANI YOSEF! (I am Joseph) Messianic symbolism here? GEN 44:17-47:27, so I thought I would post this article that I wrote 20 years ago, which also comments on the Messianic symbolism of the story of Joseph: With careful study of the...
  11. keithr

    Resurrection on earth

    It does not make sense that time would come to an end on the Earth, especially if people are going to have everlasting life on Earth. Modern translations more correctly translate Revelation 10:6 as there being no more delay, e.g. (WEB): (6) and swore by him who lives forever and ever, who...
  12. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    I don't see any topic being banned in the "Terms and rules". Why would anyone want to ban discussing their beliefs? 1 Peter 3:15 (WEB): (15) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts; and always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason concerning the hope that is in you...
  13. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    Although, of course, he will have a new name when we join him in heaven: Revelation 3:12 (WEB): (12) He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new...
  14. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    That's not what the Bible says. Genesis 2 (WEB): (9) Out of the ground Yahweh God made every tree to grow that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food, including the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (16) Yahweh God commanded the...
  15. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    Semantics. ;) If you're at someone's side then you are side by side with them. Stephen said (Acts 7:56), "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!" I think most people would interpret that to mean that he was side by side with God. As Paul...
  16. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    God drove them out of the garden to separate them from the tree of life - so that they would not be able to live forever. It was nothing to do with separating Adam and Eve from God.
  17. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    That is illogical. Your dad was not a father and simultaneously his own only begotten son. Your dad begat you, and you are his son, but your dad is not you.
  18. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    Well explained. That convinces me (not!). :rolleyes:
  19. keithr

    Who was sacrificed Jesus the human, or the spirit being who came to earth to become Jesus?

    It was a garden (park) that God planted for Adam to live in (Genesis 2:8,15). It wasn't where God lived. God would occasionally visit and walk with Adam and Eve, so only then were they in His presence. God drove them out of the garden because: Genesis 3 (WEB): (22) Yahweh God said, “Behold...