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It's simple RedFan...the other member believes Deuteronomy 6:4-5 The Shema. What would be interesting here is if you and I explained how we understand the Trinity.... But will reply after dinner.

You posted a verse. You said there's no caveat in that verse. Well......there are plenty of verses throughout the NT that are CAVEATS to the verse you posted. You're being picky. Go have a nice slice of pizza and be happy.

END RESULT: EVERYONE GETS INTO HEAVEN.

Well, apparently YOU don't know what a caveat is or you wouldn't be telling ME that I don't know what a caveat is.

SS I can't keep this up. Sorry. I've made my position clear. It is what the NT teaches. Asking if Jesus failed is SO intellectually dishonest of you. :( Plus,,,it's pizza night here in Italy! Maybe you should start a thread on what it means that Jesus is the Savior of the whole world??

Agreed. But it's not the Apostles or the priest that forgives the sin.... It's God. The priest only proclaims whether or not the sin has been forgiven. (sometimes it's not).

Expressing your conscience is stating that there is only one God and not 3 Gods. (because from your statements this is what you understand Christianity to believe). Making odd statement which show that you do not accept and thus do not understand the Trinity is NOT expressing your conscience...

Just fell on this M. Persons that don't accept the Trinity should not be making statements such as yours!

OK Two points: 1. I did say that we should define what a practicing Catholic is. I believe that you mean by this a person that is not just going through the motions, but has studied either the bible or the CCC or perhaps both and truly believes what the church teaches and accepts it. If this...

Yes. I agree that others could also heal even though it will always be by the power given by God. In Jesus' case, He healed MANY persons and God gave Him this power to prove that He was God. No one can heal that many persons in their ministry. Also, let's look at Mark 2:5-12 for further...

That's very insulting SS. How low do you want to go?? I posted verses that PROVE beyond any doubt that there are CAVEATS to Jesus having died for all... there are CONDITIONS. I think this will be it for tonight. And find out what Caveat means.

Enough SS. Wm Barclay agrees with you. This is why I said to stop reading what MEN WRITE and concentrate on the NT. I could post HUNDREDS of books that will agree with me. So what? Last question.... WHY are you so afraid of God's wrath? I'm not. Are you disobeying Him and are afraid of...

Uffa! I don't need you to post more stuff. I know what you believe. And don't call the verses you post EVIDENCE. They don't even support what you believe... I explained away each and every one... But I CAN'T SIT HERE ALL DAY reply to your verses. The NT is a complete thought. It's not a bunch...

Because SS I've been a Christian most of my life and have been studying the NT for about 40 years and what you post believing it supports your view DOES NOT support your view. I think you should stop reading books and read the NT through, which I'm sure you've done, but I mean with a clear...

1. In post no. 141 you stated this: "It seems that the more I explain, the less you understand." My reply was: You could say you don't agree with me but you cannot say I don't understand your position. 2. So,,,I am not claiming that you do not have a defendable position... I'M STATING that...

Steven.... Jesus taught us to love our enemies. What did He mean by this? Do you really think Jesus....read all the woes in Matthew.....is teaching us to LOVE in the sense that we mean it today....our enemies? So you love Hitler? Do I have this right? By love Jesus meant that we are not to...

Romans 8:20-21 All of creation will be restored. Right. Nature. Nature will be restored. Even nature suffered from the fall. You mean the word ALL supports universalism in that Jesus died FOR ALL? Apparently you don't know about the debate between traditional christianity and the reformed...

You're a very nice person Wrangler. Will try to remember this in the future.

Let me be blunt: Jesus was either God or He was crazy. He healed persons and only God can heal. He went to the cross thinking He was the I AM. Thomas called Him MY GOD.... I could go on, but prefer not to. This I've never heard before - or at least, not in your words. Could you please expound...

Nice lesson. All good. Except that the CONCEPT of hell IS in the NT. It is a place where there will be weeping an gnashing of teeth. WHAT it is we cannot really say. But for sure it's a place far away from God.