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  1. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Of course. That's what I stated. That's your opinion. God Father WAS JESUS' GOD while Jesus was on earth.. BUT NOT when He is in the "office" of 2nd Person of the Trinity. Those that don't understand the Trinity cannot grasp this. Again, you're using the OT...I do believe I've already...
  2. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    All creeds are biblical. Are there any trusted hand-picked servants today? And did these trusted servants not teach others what Jesus and the Apostles taught them? If everything we need to know is written down then WHY do you and I disagree? Well, Jesus may not recognize it today....but He...
  3. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Right. But they have a theological canundrum that cannot be answered. Jesus is God or He isn't. You want to believe He was created and became God's Son.....you can....but you shouldn't call yourself a Christian. Period. Actually, I don't like hiding. You could read the NT again. I'm not...
  4. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Exactly....the OFFICE would have been the same. So your point was moot. JWs are very concerned with pagan religions and beliefs. I like to stick to what the Christian church has taught from the beginning. And, yes, I LOVE to adore Mary. She deserves it. I don't worship her, however. This is...
  5. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    My replies will be more concise than yours. I agree with most of what you've stated. You wrote too much for me to go back and forth to MY post...so I'm only answering what is apparent in your reply. You don't consider what Ignatius wrote on his way to his death in Rome to be inspired by God...
  6. GodsGrace

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    OK R....this is your opinion and I'm not here to change your mind. Just want to say this: Many on these forums state that something or other is not valid because it wasn't included in the NT. Wasn't it John that stated that there would be so much to write that it all could not fit into the NT...
  7. GodsGrace

    Spiritual Extortion - The threat of consequence for refusing the "Free Gift" of salvation

    Are you a universalist? I understand very well. Why not just say that I don't agree with you? Everyone will be judged.... But will they get justice? Will they get what they deserve? So Hitler will get a little more salt than the rest of us but he'll be in heaven too? And I don't see the word...
  8. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    We need MORE guidance than the bible on morality?? And where do we get that from? I may be terrible with my circular reasoning,,,but you sure are terrible at replying to questions. I've had to go back to my post for each of your answers. Hows about putting the question in your reply -- that...
  9. GodsGrace

    Spiritual Extortion - The threat of consequence for refusing the "Free Gift" of salvation

    Oh for goodness sake SS,,,,if God didn't have mercy He'd just send everyone to be FAR away from Him after the fall of humankind. What is interesting about this is that calvinists claim God is merciful because He just chooses a few lucky ones to go to heaven...and this makes Him...
  10. GodsGrace

    Spiritual Extortion - The threat of consequence for refusing the "Free Gift" of salvation

    No SS,,,,it's not a good defense for universalism. This is because universalism is not found in the NT. Look at what you're repeating: EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. If we're accountable it means we will be JUDGED. IF we're judged....how do we all come to be saved? NO ONE WILL...
  11. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Hi Verily Misunderstanding here. You have a lot to offer and I hope you continue here. Only moderators can ban a member but you did nothing to warrant bannig - it's not that easy or none of us would be here! The other member just wasn't understanding why you were posting about the brazen snake...
  12. GodsGrace

    Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

    The above is all very true RN. So you're not a Calvinist? Or you can't find any verses that SPECIFICALLY state what calvinists believe?? It might be no. 2 because the NT does NOT teach Calvinism. Will get to your long post ASAP. PS This is something all calvinists do. They quote scripture...
  13. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Agreed. But they can't figure out how to fix it....or it's too much trouble to. Different methods are tried every now and then....but nothing definitive. RCIA works well, but it's only for converts. As long as God doesn't anathematize you. Wider Hope sounds good. Here's what I believe...
  14. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Frankly, I don't care if we agree or not. I gave you the reason why simply reading the NT is NOT SUFFICIENT because if it were we'd all agree on every doctrine. And I don't mean WE here on this forum....I mean the denominations we belong to. Maybe there shouldn't even be denominations. Sounds...
  15. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    OK I agree. There's too much we don't know and I'm not making any definitive statement here. What I'm saying is that it makes sense to me ---- I mean the IC. Just want to throw this in... Mary went to the temple to be cleansed.... Jesus was baptized by John.... Did He really need to? Just a...
  16. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    OK But that assumes the Muslim KNOWS what he's supposed to believe. Most Catholics DO NOT. I think a lot of this is left to the conscience. Which brings up the always interesting question: WELL THEN, ISN'T BETTER TO REMAIN IGNORANT? I think God is a big God and will judge us according to how we...
  17. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    In my case....correct. Ditto in my case. They have deep theological understanding of matters that most times I don't even really understand because it requires a brain with capabilities beyond mine. So I agree with your last statement. Part of the problem,,,,if I've misunderstood you...is that...
  18. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Great question. There could be different answers....I've never spoken about this to any priest in any great length.. I'll tell you what one said to me ... a traditional priest, about 10 years or more ago. I asked him....what if someone doesn't believe a dogma? He said to pray about it. What...
  19. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Catholics ARE REQUIRED to believe Dogma. What I'm saying is that not all of them do and they're still considered Catholic. The OFFICIAL TEACHING of the CC is that all its members MUST BELIEVE every dogma. Not every doctrine is a dogma....but once it makes dogma status...it must be believed...
  20. GodsGrace

    Were Jesus's brothers born of another woman?

    Sure. But Mary was pure and holy in a way we're not. What does holy mean? She fits the bill better than any of us. And, I do believe Protestantism should have more regard for the mother of Jesus. Here are some more writings on Mary.... St. Gregory of Nyssa It was, to divulge by the manner of...