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He gave ADAM free will and the parameters in which to use it.... Adam then fell and doomed the entire race's wills to be enslaved to Satan and to sin.

I'm confining God to a box? I'm saying God has the right to do whatever He wants to do, because this is His creation, the He made from nothing. You are saying "No, God can't save people because they have to choose Him" YOU are shoving Him into a box, using your "Free will" as the prod. I think...

Right! Our lord and savior Charles Finney! ....who lied his way into the Presbyterian church, and then admitted doing so.... all hail lol.

Oh! So God only has any power AFTER we let Him? So, He can't save us because we have to choose Him, and He can only keep us saved after we let Him? Who is the real God in such a scenario? Who has the REAL power?

Oh.... so salvation isn't really that big of a deal.... more of a "Do I prefer chocolate or vanilla? Chevy or Ford" flippant kind of nonchalant decision? What if I change my mind later? What if I decide that I don't like chocolate anymore?

But why? There has to be a reason why some do and others don't.

So, what is the difference between those who believe and those who do not?

Yes, all that the father gives. How can He give something that isn't His?

Daniel 4:35 ESV / 1,166 helpful votes All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?” Isaiah 43:13 ESV / 780 helpful...

Please explain to me exactly what it is you think I believe, because all you have done thus far is assume you know something you don't. You want to have a conversation, that is one thing, but mindlessly slinging around false accusations does nothing but show your own lack of knowledge as to what...

This is not what he later claimed in his systematic theology

1. “Several theologians have held that regeneration is the work of the Holy Spirit alone … but I might just as lawfully insist that it is the work of man alone.” – Charles Finney, ‘Lectures On Systematic Theology’: Abridged Edition, p. 224 2. “The doctrine of imputed righteousness, or that...

So you're saying that God changes the way He saves people in the Old and New Testaments?

Me, looking for even a shred of Biblical evidence in you many accusative posts:

Abraham believed in the promised savior, and it was attributed to Him as righteousness. You said: That is my point

Genesis 15:6

So, what you are saying here [or rather Scripture is saying here] is that man without God is desperately wicked, and the only way Scripture gives to change this is by the gracious Work of God on the hearts of men. Otherwise, they would remain unclean. So, you are agreeing by the verses you...

One of my favorites: God says: Romans 1:18 ; 2 Peter 2:9 ; Psalm 75:8 Man says: "God hates the Sin and loves the sinner!" God:

The problem is, as your bottom banner says, that the God of the Scriptures is not pleasant to man's palate in any sense until God changes man's tastes.

I agree that Christ's birth was an enormous point in history, the greatest of all time, but this does not mean that Scripture contradicts Scripture. Christ did not come to contradict the Law of the OT.