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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Here is the thing though. They say they believe the dead in Christ are raised at the second resurrection. BUT then they also say they believe the scriptures that show the dead in Christ being raised at the first resurrection shown in Rev. 20:4-6 they say that is past. So really they ARE saying...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Again, Rev. 20:4-6 is about those who have already been physically killed/dead. It is not about being born again. Revelation 20:4-6 King James Version 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    The first resurrection mentioned in Rev. 20:4-6 is the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ. It is not about being born again, these souls were already killed/dead physically. Revelation 20:4-6 King James Version 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Verse 4 is talking about the dead in Christ being resurrected first, which you Amils believe is past. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Amils are also saying “the first resurrection”as defined below is past. Revelation 20:4-6 King James Version 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    The context is there are those (like Amils) who are claiming the first resurrection as is mentioned in Rev. 20:5-6 is past. Paul was against the idea that the first resurrection was past.
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    Spirits like frogs

    In the news…. IDF: 6 Al Jazeera Journalists Belong to Palestinian Terror Groups The Israeli Defense Forces announced Wednesday that six journalists working for Al Jazeera are linked to Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, The Times of Israel reported. The IDF said it had obtained documents...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    This claim above is why this warning applies to Amil doctrine… 2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. Paul did not believe the first resurrection was limited to Jesus ALONE being resurrected, and thus...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    It is what you imply when you say Jesus ALONE being raised from the dead IS the first resurrection as is defined in Rev. 20:5-6. Clearly Jesus’ resurrection is past, so in effect you are also claiming the first resurrection is also past. Oh what a tangled web you have weaved for yourself when...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    That is not what I said. I acknowledged you believe the dead in Christ are a part of the second resurrection. So that means you do not believe the dead in Christ are a part of the first resurrection as is mentioned and defined in Rev. 20:5-6. By the way, the second resurrection is the...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    The first resurrection/harvest includes both the first fruits and the lump of the harvest at the last day. What you do not understand is they are ALL a part of the same resurrection/harvest. Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    But you also say Jesus’ resurrection ALONE IS the first resurrection, which is defined in Rev. 20:5-6. So by adding up all these statements you are really saying the first resurrection is past. You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.:gd
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Which when asked, you said the dead in Christ are raised at the second resurrection. This is because you believe the first resurrection is past. I told the truth about what you said. You can apologize anytime now, but I won’t hold my breath.sml
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Scripture teaches that Jesus was the first to be resurrected from the dead unto Eternal Life. Jesus is the first fruits OF the first resurrection, but the first resurrection/ harvest is not complete until ALL the fruits of the harvest are reaped. I think you Amils need to take a gardening...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I know what you claim, it’s all on the World Wide Web for all to see.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Yes, Jesus is the first fruits OF the first resurrection/ harvest. One fruit is not the entire harvest of many fruits.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Christ is the head, the members being many make up the rest of the body. The body is not complete until all the members are resurrected and made perfect in One. 1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    The root of the Amil confusion is in thinking Jesus alone is the entire first resurrection/harvest of those who physically died in the faith. The first fruit is not the entire harvest that is yet to be harvested/ reaped at the last day.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Amils are always trying to divert from the context of Rev. 20:1-6 and run to out of context verses about being born again of the Spirit. This is sleight of hand smoke and mirrors tactic meant to distract from the context in Rev. 20:5-6 that defines the meaning of the first bodily resurrection...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    No, Paul knew the first resurrection/harvest was not complete until ALL who are of the first resurrection/harvest are raised up at the last day. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.