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Yes, they do. How can the trumpets be read if the scroll seals remain unbroken? They cannot. The seals have to be removed in order to read the scroll which contains the trumpets and bowls. In knowing that, the trumpets certainly follow the 7th seal because logic and Revelation 8:1-2 dictate...

If the things hereafter pertain to the future, can God explain to us what the 1st Trumpet is, as its future, without explaining how the trumpets were resulting from the 7th seal? And if he explains the 7th seal, wouldn’t he have to explain the other 6? And if he explains the other 6, wouldn’t he...

Do you agree she’s a false prophet?

I have an extremely difficult time accepting Ellen White @Brakelite Ex. Wikipedia In her own opinion, Jesus did not begin as equal to God the Father but was at a certain moment promoted to equality with the Father, which triggered Lucifer's rebellion (as explained in her book Spirit of...

No Phoneman. We never have seen it because scripture doesn’t show it. It doesn’t exist. Take what scripture says and use that. Guessing is man’s devices, not God’s!

A beast is not a kingdom unless it rises from the sea. Being a beast, really the word is evil beast and not beast like cattle, is its nature. Daniel 7 explains Revelation 13. 2 beasts. One from the earth, one from the sea. Scripture validates scripture and it’s always right.

There is always a rebuttal. But does the party that agrees with the OP accept the rebuttal? No. That’s different. And neither do they that debate against the OP. It is easier to continue a subject and remain on the same topic unless: 1. The original topics changes or details change 2. The...

We are told men rise from the earth since Adam We are told the 4 Kings rise from the earth. They are men. And we are told the False Prophet rises from the earth. Again, he’s a man Not once do we see a kingdom rise from the earth. Scripture validates scripture

I realize this may be something examined more in SDA circles than others. SDA authors whose books describe “Sunday Law”, and “Sunday Worship” as being wrong are in my opinion bias and wrong themselves. Of course you will not agree because SDA workshops or teachings promote it, no different than...

You don't need to calculate anything. The resurrection of the dead is in there if you study, you would know its location.

Are you doing those things now? On this thread? I don't see it. Just trying to convince.,, As I said, almost all denominations do this as far as I have personally seen, read and heard about. Diverting? Nope. It's not the denomination that is holy, but the workers. And I know countless workers...

Page 3 says: Here we have a nation that is springing up out of the wilderness area. It later calls this country America. No source is given. No scripture but ALL conjecture and opinion. Nothing fact based. Page 3 And he had two horns like a lamb. The lamb like horns indicate youth, gentleness...

And Sunday Law, I've read that free pamphlet in the mail. It's full of so many scriptural holes. More religious conspiracy theories and scare tactics. Think I still have a copy that I outlines all the mistakes in it. - Need to find it in my bookshelf Edit: found it. National Sunday Law by Jan...

I didn't ask nor did I want to know. You gave them to me in order to prove something about SDA's... You were trying to convince me of their righteousness as if they represent the Philadelphia church and do no wrong. Many churches do everything you listed. They should, its a good thing. I never...

Wrong. A Beast that rises from the sea is a Kingdom. Let's get it right as opposed to a Beast that rises from the earth. Lol Some people believe that. Not everyone. There are plenty of opinions on the subject. Thanks Phoneman for your interesting opinions on prophecy.

Here is my response: 1 Corinthians 50:47-48 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. We are all born of the earth first. Daniel 7:17 These...

Except it doesn't because 7 means completion and we are dealing with 10 Kings. Nope, I didn't miss it. It's not what you say it is. Oh Boy! You read too much internet junk. Let me get this straight, you said 1 "is" and that was under the Kingdom of Rome...ok and 1 was to come. 7 heads right...

So, you are trying to convince me...? Guess I was right :rolleyes:

I think Christian nationalism and politics in general is a problem. But I don’t deal in conspiracy theories. I also realize many churches are on the wrong track: Protestant, Baptist, Assembly of God, Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist and so on.

Right. Christ died and went to hades, not heaven because he was to be the first fruits of them that sleep. When the thief died, didn’t he go to hades just like Jesus? Doesn’t scripture say, all who hear his voice when he returns will be in their graves? Not heaven but graves, tombs per John 5:28...