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Well, I would say the exact same of you. Oh, what you said was perfectly clear. However... :) It does. It does. Sure. Sure. But that's not the only place in Revelation where we see ~ or understand Jesus's return to be imminent, happening, or to have occurred. Which is starting to get at...

Okay, I understand. "Bothered?" No, not I. I'm just saying Christians should treat other Christians in the manner you did. No need to be so defensive. I just don't think on this board anybody should be sniping at anybody, as we are all Christians. Yeah, a Christian calling another...

Disagree. I say that just because "great tribulation" is used by Jesus in Matthew 24 and John in Revelation 7 is not sufficient reason to deduce that they are talking about the same thing, the very same time period. I say, as I said before, that yes, there will be great tribulation such as has...

Well good. :) But that's not what Revelation 7 is talking about, really, The Light. All the saints of God are in view in Revelation 7, from all time. There will be a great ramping up of the tribulation of God's people just before Jesus returns. But the "great tribulation" of Revelation...

Nope. This understanding comes, at least to some degree, because true knowledge and wisdom are gifts of the Spirit and apportioned to believers as God wills: "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties...

Oh boy... :) Yeah I'm not... "promoting Calvinism," per se... but rather, God's Word. It is what it is... :) Alas, you may accuse me of lying or being mistaken, but... :) And what were they resisting the Holy Spirit, SI? Well, yes, the Holy Spirit, but Stephen is not talking about them...

Actually... you are both right. :) My question to both of you is, is there no tribulation prior to this great tribulation just before Jesus comes/returns? :) Grace and peace to you both.

That might very well be your perception. I just showed you the difference between the KJV and the ES ~ between which there is no difference ~ and the fact that one has 'the' in there (the ESV) and the other doesn't. So just regarding the words, no, that's not a lie. If someone were to say...

My question is, why are there some who, when a person is mistaken about something, automatically accuse them of lying? Being mistaken and bearing false witness are two very different things. Well, I think Christians ~ well, people in general ~ should know the difference between being...

No, you're making an erroneous "point." No one can choose to be born of the Spirit, just as none of us could have possibly chosen to be physically born of our earthly mother and father. Either God gives this second birth ~ which is by and of Himself in the person of the Holy Spirit, of course...

They were not. They... like you and I... had been born again of the Spirit. For them long before, during their lifetime, and for us long after, in ours. In Ephesians 2:4-10, Paul is referring directly to what the prophet Ezekiel had said long before, even long before Jesus was born of Mary...

Non-Christians do not have a second birth or the resulting first resurrection, Timtofly. They remain dead in their sin. Absolutely not. See above. LOL! Whuuuuuut? Dear God. This it totally ridiculous. LOL!!! See above... The second. :) The first resurrection is the spiritual...

In your opinion. Fair enough, but it is what it is. I never said it did. No, because the second birth and the first resurrection, though very, very close together, are not the same thing. That they are so very close together makes it acceptable to say that they are together one event, but...

I... never said it was... Is that what you heard me say? No, quite the opposite, actually. Sure. But we've been talking about the first and second resurrection, Timtofly. Right, those who experience the second birth are exempted from the second death. Well, separated from God's grace...

Yes. We don't know. In the fullness of God's time, whatever that is in years to you and me, this age will be brought to a close... when the fullness of the Gentile elect have been brought into God's Israel, and the partial hardening that is now on Israel (the Jewish elect), and together all...

Noone has a physical body in heaven... yet. One day, heaven and earth will be one. Why do you keep asking such inane questions? Oh, yeah... LOL! They are... They are waiting for when they ~ spirit though they are now ~ will be reunited with their physical body, which will be "made new," at...

I don't care, really, what you do or do not do. But it is what it is. Hmm, then how come you keep trying to refute what I've posted? LOL! No, the fact that there is pointedly, in Revelation 20, a "first resurrection," Timtofly, irrefutably implies that there is a second. In Revelation 20...

No. To be judged. Along with everyone else. To stand, they would have to have at least one leg. <chuckles> However, if you're using "stand" in the sense of withstanding the Judgment, or coming out on the "good side" of the Judgment, then no, the wicked will not stand in the judgment; this...

One cannot stand, Timtofly, without a body (with at least one leg attached)… :) And the Judgment does not take place in Sheol (regardless of your thoughts about sheol or where that is). Dear God… Well yeah, all who have died before Christ’s return will physically stand ~ along with those...

Continued from above... You're welcome to your opinion, certainly, but I would encourage you to investigate that instead of rejecting it without any thought given to it. All lead up to the Second Coming... and in the last two (Revelation 19:11-21 and Revelation 20:1-21:8), we actually see the...