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  1. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Not even what I posted. I said God can change His mind, not make plans that fail, so He had to keep making better plans. God's mind was to call out Abraham. God's mind was to wrestle with Jacob and change His name to Israel. God's mind was to set up an OT economy. Calling those plans...
  2. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    The elect is the largest group, that is everyone. All were elected, when all were written in the Lamb's book of life and sealed with 7 Seals. The redeemed who will receive a body from God, not one handed down from Adam and Eve, will be the remnant, even if in the billions. As your theology...
  3. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    I never implied that was the original way creation was designed. After Adam disobeyed God, and physically died, creation was set up so humans kept conceiving other humans in the same dead flesh state. Not that God condemned each soul in the womb. God originally left Adam alone, in that...
  4. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Only for those who deny free will. Universalism states that all are saved, or will be saved, not that God wills all to be saved. Most do not even care if God exists or not, much less what Jesus did on the Cross. The Atonement does not force people to be saved, it just allows all to be saved...
  5. Timtofly

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The Second Coming is pre-trib according to John in Revelation 6, the 5th and 6th Seals.
  6. Timtofly

    The Rapture and Jewish Weddings

    I have and you are the one assuming I called the last 2 millennia, Jacob's trouble. Jacob's trouble happens after the Second Coming, while Jesus and all His angels are on the earth. The church's trouble has been great tribulation over the last 2 millennia. Great in length, not in intensity...
  7. Timtofly

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Daniel's image in Daniel 2 is long gone. All five kingdoms dead at the Reformation. Nothing of that image has been after the Reformation. Revelation 17:10 "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come." We are in the 6th kingdom. The 7th has not...
  8. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    At the Second Coming, the only ones left in Christ are those alive on the earth. 3 different events. The Cross. The Second Coming. The end of the Day of the Lord. Paul said order, not a single one time event. "Each one in his own order".
  9. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    So, Jesus stepped out of His earthly body, with a spiritual body that was then placed in a tomb? Then the spiritual body later ascended to heaven?
  10. Timtofly

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    The point by the other poster is they were to flee because of great tribulation. Since that tribulation will include every human everywhere on earth, fleeing from tribulation is not the point.
  11. Timtofly

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Then you don't think the Seals are literal on a literal Lamb's book of life? You do not think there are literal angels using literal Trumpets then? Jesus' birth and ascension are not explicit words. John uses symbolism to show an historical parenthetical point. Parenthetical points do not...
  12. Timtofly

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Do you think the church is going to live on the earth during the Millennium? Because there is no indication of that as no one else has ever come back to live without dying. God tried that with the sons of God living on earth with Adam and Eve's offspring in dead corruptible bodies. The sons...
  13. Timtofly

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Technically in the Greek it is "the great the tribulation" because they used an article before both the noun and the adjective. But one can remove both of the articles, because they are not necessary in English, unless of course one has a theological bias, and trying to define this...
  14. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Is grace the gift or faith? Since faith is not tangible, obedience is the tangible part. You know that 4 letter word, "work"? Faith is only obtained by working out in obedience God's grace. God gives you grace as you work out that grace, and after you are gone, it is called faith. If you...
  15. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    OK, what translation uses "wish" as an ability of God? wish: feel or express a strong desire or hope for something that is not easily attainable; want something that cannot or probably will not happen. Really? The creator of the universe hopes in something that cannot or probably won't...
  16. Timtofly

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Are you saying this is wrong? That Jesus just walks in a few doors and that is called salvation? The majority of humanity are never even given...
  17. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    There was no interpretation in that post you called gibberish. I asked the poster 2 questions. Questions are not interpretations.
  18. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Christ the firstfruits You left out all the OT redeemed resurrected out of their tombs per Matthew 27. Firstfruits is plural, not Christ the firstfruit. 3 parts to the order: The Cross The Second Coming The end of the Day of the Lord when Jesus hands creation back to God. There was...
  19. Timtofly

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Jesus said there would be trouble, but all over. No one can flee from trouble, nor physical death. They are fleeing from being coerced by Satan's policies. They are fleeing so they won't have to bow down to Satan's tyranny of immorality. If you are using the Olivet Discourse as your...
  20. Timtofly

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    The AoD does not start out the timeframe of anything written in Revelation. That is your private opinion. Do you even know what verse in Revelation mentions something closely resembling an AoD. Jesus never put a time frame with the AoD in the Olivet Discourse. Jesus said: "if you see this...