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  1. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Obviously the Holy Spirit working through the church. The church was at work holding back Satan, not pagans. That is similar to the Pharisees saying Satan was casting out Satan. You have pagans following Satan, holding back Satan. The ten toes kingdom ended at the Reformation. The 6th...
  2. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The church up until that point. Those not born yet, were not resurrected. There is no resurrection, period, on the last day of creation. After heaven and earth are returned to God, only 4 things are left. The LOF, the sea, Death, and sheol. Then the sea is no more, and Death and sheol...
  3. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Was Moses a Christian? The term Christian means a follower of Christ. These are all terms you use universally. Guess what? Not all humanity get all the terms you are trying to squeeze into one all encompassing term. There are different terms to provide context. Not a single universal...
  4. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Only after being caught up. Why are you adamant one has to happen prior to the other? The mystery is that the soul is caught up out of one physical body, and placed into another physical body in the air. There have never been naked souls in the air. The only thing ever seen in the air was a...
  5. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The church has to wait another thousand years. Revelation 19 is about Israel who has waited 2,000 years since the Cross. Now the church is complaining they have to wait, and inserted themselves into the OT wife position.
  6. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day." That was the last day resurrection at the Cross. Nothing about a second coming mentioned.
  7. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Then the Restrainer was take away in the first century. That is what causes Satan to be revealed, and unrestrained.
  8. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Jesus is not coming on the last day of this age. Jesus was already on earth and declared King at the 7th Trumpet. That was not the last day of this age. Peter said the Day of the Lord in his explanation of what a thousand years was. Not sure why there is an issue with Peter’s point? Jesus...
  9. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    This point would be proof of a time period between the Day of the Lord and the removal of the Restrainer, if indeed a believer would accept the Restrainer is the Holy Spirit working through the church. Personally I think the Holy Spirit works in every human conceived from the time of...
  10. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Jesus did not even come on the last day of the OT age. This is clearly conjecture of your own opinion, along with millions of other's opinions, that Jesus comes on the last day of this age. By the way, ages is a dispensational thing. Dispensationalist should not be wrong because they do not...
  11. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    If you are going to insert and imply that these all refer to the first century, that would be the ultimate pre-trib position, because you have "all events" taking place before the tribulation of the last 1900 years. Remember great tribulation is not measured in any time frame in the Olivet...
  12. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    People messed up when they started looking for the Antichrist instead of the Lamb of God. The AoD did not happen in the first century, and may not even happen after the 7th Trumpet. But you cannot refute with any of your interpretations of Scripture, the actual Words John wrote down. There...
  13. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So after the Millennium? Your rapture and Second Coming is post mill. The LAST DAY of this present world is after the 1,000 year reign of Christ. You should not use "last day" as a metric, to prove a post trib position, because you move the Second Coming to after the entire Millennium...
  14. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    That day is the 1,000 year millennium reign. That is not a rapture nor Second Coming point. The Millennium cannot start until Satan is bound in the pit. Peter explained that in 2 Peter 3. The Day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night, but the actual millennium cannot start until this...
  15. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    They had a physical body when they entered Paradise, but not Adam's dead corruptible flesh, that you are referring to. You think that Adam never had a physical body until he sinned, and then he was given flesh and blood, if you think flesh cannot enter Paradise, where the tree of life is...
  16. Timtofly

    Daniel 9:27 the covenant to be confirmed

    Is that the same as established, and confirmed, or do we have a New Covenant that was established for all without distinction, but has yet to be put into effect, because there is no distinction. When the reason is removed that no distinction exists, then the sole people who will receive...
  17. Timtofly

    Blind Guides and Deluded Followers

    The metaphor of the wedding? You said it takes place in heaven. Do they not have physical bodies in a metaphor? Some would say the bride was Israel. Some would say the groom is the body of Christ. Those invited to the wedding would be those not of the church, nor Israel. Seems anyone can...
  18. Timtofly

    Blind Guides and Deluded Followers

    Do you think there is currently segregation and two types of humans living in Paradise, or are they all still in sheol? Most think that naked souls are now in heaven, when once they were naked souls in sheol. Not sure how you can distinguish metaphor with naked souls, but you all seem dead...
  19. Timtofly

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    I never said Adam's dead corruptible flesh could enter heaven, so stop pretending I did. God designed the sons of God to have physical bodies. They are in the image of Jesus' own physical body, received from God. Jesus never received a flesh and blood body from Adam. Jesus was God in...
  20. Timtofly

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    That would be during the Day of the Lord. John was talking about where they originated in Revelation 12, 13, and 17. Are you saying humans are born in the LOF?