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  1. St. SteVen

    What is the affect on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    Since Jesus died to pay the death penalty for original sin, what happens if you remove the original sinner? Or to state this another way... How does our view of origins affect our doctrine? Trying to sort this out in my own mind. Stuck somewhere between science and religion. This scripture...
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Why would you include him in that claim? - LOL [
  3. St. SteVen

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    LOL Again, that says nothing about attacking the Bible. Aren't you concerned about your own attacks on the Bible with your constant misinterpretations? [
  4. St. SteVen

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    Both Death and Hell will be destroyed. (not forever) Death and Hell are demons that you worship. [
  5. St. SteVen

    The accuser of the brethren - Is it you?

    It seems to me that you answered the obvious question, but not the title question. Most everyone knows who "The Accuser of the Brethren" is. I was counting on that. The weightier question is who we are working for when we accuse the brethren. (and sistern) Too many respondents don't bother to...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    That's an interesting point. - Where would the Fall of humankind be without the deceiving serpent? - Where would the murder of Abel be without Cain? - Where would the Exodus be without Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers? - Where would the fall of Jericho be without Rehab lying...
  7. St. SteVen

    The accuser of the brethren - Is it you?

    Agree. Who are we working for when we accuse one another? [
  8. St. SteVen

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    What we need to understand... (what this topic is about) is that the FIRE, not the suffering, was eternal. (God fire) Mark 9:49 NIV Everyone will be salted with fire. Malachi 3:2 NIV But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s...
  9. St. SteVen

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    Are you saying that they didn't suffer eternal fire? The biblical account indicates that the cities burned. [
  10. St. SteVen

    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    Best take the plank out of your own eye first... [
  11. St. SteVen

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    Agree. Could heaven really be heaven if you knew that even one of your loved ones was in eternal torment? --- PARODY --- Imagined conversation between Jesus and a distraught mother in heaven. (parody) Mother: Lord, I was remembering my child. Jesus: Yes, I can see her now in torment...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    That is absolutely sick. Is that the business God is in? [
  13. St. SteVen

    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    BINGO! The atonement was a complete work. 1 John 2:2 NIV He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. [
  14. St. SteVen

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Why does the Apostle Paul require that church Elders be the "husband of one wife" if polygamy wasn't common in the church? Titus 1:5-6 ESV This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— 6 if anyone is...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    You didn't watch the video, obviously. [
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    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    Agree. On a religious forum, everyone is selling, but no one is buying. Essentially a failed economy. Bankrupt spiritually. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Do you believe this? (find some poison and snakes) Mark 16:17-18 NIV 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt...
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Footnote: The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9–20. Unreliable scripture. Your point remains unproven. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    He that believeth what? The Bible? (nope) Footnote: The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9–20. Unreliable scripture. [
  20. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Says who? Consult your idol for chapter and verse. (or admit your lie) [