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  1. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Biblical Inerrancy is not a provable claim. IMHO Even when applied to the original autographs (manuscripts) that no longer exist. All we have is copies of copies of copies of copies... Which are littered with textual variants. (scribal errors) To what SINGLE Bible translation would inerrancy...
  2. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Does that mean that you believe that some Bible translations are inerrant? I suppose that would be a matter of opinion? [
  3. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    St. SteVen said: Do you defend biblical inerrancy? Yes, the Spirit helps us to navigate around the errors. [
  4. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    No. Those questions were directed at an individual. [
  5. St. SteVen

    Looking at the Statement of Faith

    Here are some key scriptures I use for support. Acts 3:21 NIV Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 NIV For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ...
  6. St. SteVen

    Looking at the Statement of Faith

    I think we are reasonably close to each other in our understanding of this. Here is a way I use to explain one aspect of it. Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without...
  7. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Thanks. We'll never hear this information from the pulpit. Good thing we have forums that allow free speech. [
  8. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Agree. Unfortunately, the Bible has become a crutch for believers. Many have lost, or never had, the ability to hear God's voice. I know that my own intense involvement with the Bible has gotten in the way. I have had to work to regain this. John 10:27 NIV My sheep listen to my voice; I...
  9. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    What was being said by @Rockerduck was that the "corrupted" Critical Text group of manuscripts were being used to create copyrightable Bible translations for the profits they will earn. This is business, of course. But has led to some 28 "updates" to the Bible in recent years. I'm no expert on...
  10. St. SteVen

    Looking at the Statement of Faith

    Agree. Good topic. Thanks. How do you see this playing out in the final judgement/evaluation? (I have my own thoughts on this) Let's compare notes. Thanks. [
  11. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    This is the expected response from those who refuse to face the facts. Do you defend biblical inerrancy? [
  12. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Agree. Additionally, denominations require them to sign a doctrinal agreement contract with them. Pastors who stray from that are at risk of termination and blacklisting. [
  13. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Agree. But what does the church claim? Every word (which Bible?) is god-breathed. [
  14. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    No. A wake-up call for ignorant Christians. You worship the Bible as if it is God. Yet you have no idea where it came from. Did you know that the original autographs (manuscripts) are gone? Here's the oldest known copy fragment of the Gospel of John. [
  15. St. SteVen

    Easter Celebrations are Worship of the Sun

    Easter Celebrations are Worship of the Sun And the Sabbath is worship of Saturn. Right? Since you insist that the day of the week indicates which deity is being worshiped. [
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    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Which of these translation methods was used to produce your favorite Bible translation? 1) The Majority Text ? 2) The Critical Text ? 3) The Textus Receptus ? Perhaps you have no idea what these terms even mean? (see the link) [
  17. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Which of these is the word of God? 1) The Majority Text ? 2) The Critical Text ? 3) The Textus Receptus ? Do you even know the difference? Or are you so steeped in evangelical dogma as to not care...
  18. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    The purpose of this topical thread is to discuss where the Bible came from. I keep encountering forum members that seem to have no clue, or at least some misconceptions about the origins, history, issues and substance of the scriptures. I invite others to share their knowledge on the...
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    My agnostic friend says: "I don't need it." - How would you respond?

    Seems that would be unequally yoked. The yoke's on us. - LOL [
  20. St. SteVen

    Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

    If changing it means altering the meaning, that's not wise. But a person can choose which translation they prefer. Which could potentially have changed the original intent. I put more faith in God's ability to use whatever means are available to speak to us than trusting that what we have...