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It’s simple to see what’s being argued here. Gods glory vs mans glory. It’s impossible to be seen through self righteous prideful eyes. I tried my best....

And "yvette nichole bronw" is about all they really say. Anybody can list a string of verses; most people will not even look at them....some will take the reference itself as proof of the position even if the actual verse doesn't support the view. You need to go through each verse and explain...

Rom 9:15, 18; 11:33; Eph 1:11; Heb 6:17. James 1:13, 17; 1 John 1:5. Prov 16:33; Mat 17:12; John 19:11; Acts 2:23; 4:27-28. 1 Sam 23:11-12 ; Mat 11:21, 23; Acts 15:18. Rom 9:11, 13, 16, 18. Mat 25:41; 1 Tim 5:21. Prov 16:4; Rom 9:22-23; Eph 1:5-6. Rom 8:30; Eph 1:4, 9, 11; 1 Thes 5:9; 2...

Oh really? Which one of these answers has any Scripture backing your claims?

So, I'll ask a final time [and a yes or no answer will work just fine] are you going to accept @Preacher4Truth 's challenge?

I'm looking at this for any Scripture reference like:

Then why keep responding at all? If you can't go through any of the Confessions we provided and at least explain a few things that you don't agree with FROM SCRIPTURE, then there is not point in responding, because it is plain for all to see that you cannot refute the truth.

What they are really doing is coming at the Scriptures with the presupposed ideas about who and what God is, and then forcing them into the text. "There has to be free will" They say, before even reading. Then when they come to places like Romans 9 they try and squeeze it into the box of their...

No, it's that we can't trust His judgment! If we aren't the ones choosing, there is no way it can be fair! Weird, that is exactly what Satan convinced Eve of.... "You will be like Gods, deciding for yourselves what is right and wrong."

... it almost feels like he is programmed to only respond with one of 3 responses.... weird... So you don't feel like actually discussing Scripture then? It is all conjecture, feelings, and cheesy one-liners?

So I take this as a "No, I will/cannot go through each line with you and discuss the problems I have with you guys" And right back to the unfactual, feelings-based one liners we go.

He said she said Calvinism means this and that.... which is enough for most people! Forget actually learning what it teaches! It gets quite annoying at times, I won't lie. Then we've got the heretics calling us a cult..... the irony.

@CoreIssue Here's one of the Confessions: Chapter 9 – Of Free Will I. God hath endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that is neither forced, nor by any absolute necessity of nature determined to good or evil. II. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will...

I would love this, but sadly I don't see it happening. If he did, there is just too much truth to refute. Here's hoping though!

Exactly. And when they read the Confession, they read it like: .... yep. It is absolutely defending free will..... Sigh... .

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Because God commanded me to. That's enough for me, if not for you you may want to go rethink your theology. I mean, you should re think it anyways but still... Just because you don't agree with the truth doesnt mean I didnt answer So instead of me answering yet again until you get an answer...