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Don't you see? It's not enough that we hold to Total Depravity.... we have to hold to HIS VERSION of it! Forget the fact that Total Depravity as we understand it is founded in well over 30 different Scriptures from the Old and New Testament.... We have to agree with his, based on his...

Sin condemns them not God. So you think that God owes salvation to all? On what grounds is God obligated to save anyone, much less everyone? On what grounds?

Nothing. His good pleasure. I never claimed to understand the ways of God; it is enough for me that God says He does this because it pleases Him to do so.

1.) You have yet to show any facts proving your first claim, and a few of us have even come forwards telling you that is not what we believe. 2.) God does not send anyone to hell; sin sends people to hell. God just chooses not to extend His grace to everyone. Give me one reason He is obligated...

Just because you don't do it, it is not necessary? Do you consciously keep your heart beating? Does that somehow make it unnecessary?

.... I never denied that. See, this is the problem; you are so caught up in spewing your unfactual whatever that you never even asked what I believed or why I believe it. It is really hard to have an actual conversation with people who want to run around with their fingers in their ears and cry...

Grace and Faith happen almost simultaneously. But grace comes first, because all good things, [including faith] come from God

Please explain to me what I am twisting again?

So then why ever change? Why can't I have my cake and eat it too? What if I want to continue on living in sin and never change, never care about Jesus? How's about I just 'choose Jesus', let Him be my fire insurance, and live my life as though nothing is different?

Proof that Calvinism is a cult...now you are even condemning those who do not hold to the doctrines of the cult. No, he's condemning those who don't hold to the doctrines of the Bible. You don't have to hold to all of the tenants of Calvinism to be a Christian. However, those who believe they...

I can't remember the last time I heard a pastor preach "If you are greedy.... GOOD! Be more greedy! Go get yourself faith, even if you don't really care about Jesus, that doesn't matter. Even if your only goal is to get yourself into heaven, with no regard for Christ or who He was. Wow. That...

All you've done so far is try to explain to us your warped, changing philosphy and ignore every verse I have supplied you with, clinging desperately to your one or 2 misinterpreted verses and cheesy one liners. Now, perhaps we could get somewhere if you would ever actually provide your...

You've shown no proof to support the contrary

How can our faith be rooted in Christ and selfishness at the same time? Matthew 6:22-24

Because truth doesn't agree with his doctrine.

That tells me that God choose to open their eyes and draw themselves to Him. I mean, they were perfectly fine committing the act.... what you're saying is they in and of themselves all of a sudden make this wild revelation, and then greedily choose to accept God just for the benefits it brings...

So, in light of this, how could you ever believe man can in and of himself come to have faith? Right..... by being greedy, and doing it solely for the benefits it brings...

So God can bring people to salvation through fornication and adultery? When someone asks you "What is the quickest way to get faith?" one of the answers is "commit adultery?"

.... but how do you reconcile it with the verses I listed?

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves. Philippians 2:3 -Still trying to find where this verse says "Do nothing except selfishly accept God for your own personal gain... No one should seek their own good, but the good of others. 1...