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The Romans 13 verse, in the NKJV, uses "governing authorities" and "taxes" . The verses are talking about the governing authorities, not the church authorities.. my opinion, of course. The body of Christ (the Church) is in the world, but not of the world. The governments are worldly, and the...

You said: "...the Lord made sure the church had such power until it didn't need it any more." "...so heresy and heretics were within their rights to execute the laws in place until nations began the separation of jurisdictions like England did in King James' day." I think the Catholic Church...

I didn't think that was possible! Merry Christmas to you, and all your Protestant relatives!

I meant the disagreements that you and truth333 have, sound like the Protestant confusion at times.

Youse guys sound like the Protestants!

You said: "...we in fact made our freewill choice "before the foundation of the world"" If you are referring to this Scripture: Ephesians 1:4 "..just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,..." Then, it looks like...

How about the exception that the Virgin Mary was Immaculate? The norm is a sinner.

No. If there are 40,000 perpetually splintering Protestant churches, I don't think the Catholic Church can blame an inquisition on them all. Try the Church of England. My local church, as BOL is eager to point out, has only been in existence for 30 years; can't blame the Inquisitions on us...

I think you've proven (to me, at least) why the Catholic Church is not a Christian church. Instead of a Scriptural response to Heresy, they had a Cultural response. From 1Corinthians 5: "Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person” ; means Excommunication, not various civil penalties...

#2. BOL hasn't insulted me, unless I missed it...

One point to make might be that the Christian church isn't supposed to kill heretics (or have them killed). Our fight is against the powers of darkness, not flesh and blood. The Catholic Church did not directly kill heretics. They could torture them though, and whenever an accused heretic did...

Quote from Charles Spurgeon: “I never have to reconcile friends. Divine sovereignty and human responsibility have never had a falling out with each other. I do not need to reconcile what God has joined together.”

Using these two sources, and any others submitted, I hope to get the facts of this "tormented phase in the history of the Church" (per Pope John Paul 11)(from CERC). (1)This is a link to the Catholic Education Resource Center (CERC): Status: Inquisition in the Catholic Church (2)Henry...

I like your last suggested response to the vandalism. I used to live in that city, btw.

You've said the Bible (Word of God) is an idol. You've said you use it (the Word of God) only because Christians want you to: from Post #33 in the thread *to church or not to church* you said: "Well the only time I pick up a bible is when I need to respond to christians who demand it..." That...

HUH?

The building has no use for Elders. The Elders (and the people) have use for the building. They meet in a building (sometimes in the Jungle or in a field). Is the brick and mortar evil or something? Several people on this forum simply hate the physical church building that the Church of God...

The book of Acts uses the word, church, to mean a building with Christians meeting in it. Acts 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations Acts 16:5 So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and increased in...

From Romans 8: 3. "....He condemned sin in the flesh, 4. that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."

Your comments always include this statement from someone named Harkin: "Secrets are like herpes, if you got 'em, you might as well spread 'em around!!!" - Harkin A Christian friend, or your Pastor/Elder, might encourage you to delete this comment. It does not reflect the God you serve.