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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    Amen. Churches have been too soft on sin for too long. Cross-less Christianity, offending no-one. Lost their saltiness. No fear of the Lord either. This makes them little more than social, psychology, philosophy and even political clubs. There's a need to toughen up some, like good...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    A lot of the allergies and intolerances we are seeing might be due to emotional/spiritual causes as well. Sign of the times, our post-Christian society is sick in general and it manifests in the physical realm as well. I made grain free "bread" recently, twice, but nobody cared for it. My...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Same here, and I appreciate your time on this. On the topic of health and food, the other side of the coin is that I seem to see a society that is too pre-occupied with "health" these days honestly, a luxury that only a rich and prosperous society can afford, probably unprecedented in history...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I agree, but I gather that Hepzibah's definition of saved is that we are not saved when we first come to faith, but only with "theosis" and a certain baptism of the Holy Spirit.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Yes, it kind of all catches up with us a we age, at least that is what I seem to be finding. As far as food goes, that would be going off topic here, but I just want to say that Jesus said to take no thought about it...etc. We can even drink poison (inadvertently) and not be harmed. In...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    I get tired of arguing too, all the more since I'm getting older. But we do come here to discuss and try to iron things out and it's inevitable that there are areas of disagreement. But overall I have grown and learned a lot from my time on forums. Because there is more freedom, it allows for...
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    Thoughts on Christian Mysticism and Contemplative Practice

    I stand behind what I said am just going to leave it at that and not drag this out any further.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    God bless you in this aging process sister.....it isn't an easy time of life, as I'm finding out too. But I believe God is making use of it to further purge and purify, and turning it to our spiritual good. Stay encouraged. I find the Psalms so encouraging. David wrote about being compassed...
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    Thoughts on Christian Mysticism and Contemplative Practice

    I'm saying that your accusation of tribalism is a false strawman accusation. (or is it a red herring, forget which)
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    lol. Brother I still have a lot to learn without a doubt, but I resolved a long time ago to bring my thoughts CAPTIVE to His word.........and have learned so much since then. I only think and speak bible-ese now and am highly suspicious of man-made terminology and man-made anything for that...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    God has been leading my learning and study brother and I find Him to be an able Teacher. Sometimes I will listen to a video, or part of one, if I feel inclined for any reason, but that is not very often. Isn't Utley a Baptist? From what I saw when I looked into him a bit. Baptists are...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Sister....I believe we are saved from wrath and regenerated in the inner man when we come to faith in Christ with faith not of our own. We were reconciled and restored to God through Christ. This was our experience and testimony, and many of us (I hope most) also received a baptism of the Holy...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    That's what I've been saying all along Johann. No, I didn't watch the videos. I don't need cessationists trying to teach me about things of the Spirit, but thank you anyway.
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    Thoughts on Christian Mysticism and Contemplative Practice

    Whoa there. No one has been chosen to unify the church but Christ, His Spirit. If anyone claims otherwise, then Houston we've got a big problem. Antichrist maybe? Someone taking the place of Christ? Christianity is not a religion......it's a LIFE, a WAY, and THE TRUTH, in simplicity, led by...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    Of course we live by faith and not by experiences.......it is through faith that we sometimes have "experiences". But we do not live by them or seek them out. It is as the Spirit wills.
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    I have no idea what you have experienced or not experienced Johann. (Though I do have the impression that you object to spiritual experiences in general.)
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    It reads to me that he was just identifying with those who were still struggling, in order to show them the way out. That's why he wrote it...as instruction. Well there is always the fear of God to consider, when we need it. It's our best friend if we're facing temptation in some way. But if...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    Seemed to me that it should have been, but wasn't.
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    I hope this addresses what you are trying to point out. All who believe by faith have Christ (His Spirit), so we are in the Spirit and not the flesh in one sense, that we are living in the Spirit………..but we are instructed/exhorted to therefore ALSO walk in the Spirit. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in...
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    Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

    Pretty sure Paul was identifying with the struggle of believers in general.........then he shared what he had cottoned on to about walking in the spirit which ended the struggle. No need to speculate about the thorn in the flesh....he stated what it was for.....not because of existing sin but...