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The purpose of the Holy Spirit is to generate faith, though I would agree that this is done through the medium of the Scriptures. But ultimately it is the application of the Scriptures by the Holy Spirit that creates true, saving faith. I do not agree that Christ died for all, because if He...

We do know, and the answer is no, no the clay does not make the choice to be hardened while the butter chooses to melt. This more than anything you've said illustrates what I am trying to say; no amount of choice or reaction can make the clay melt, or the butter harden; it is beyond their power...

So the preacher is the one who gives faith?

So who do you believe does the attaining of faith if it is not your work?

this is exactly my point, and is the complete opposite of saying that God chooses based on foreseen faith. I did know this, and this was my very point; that predestination cannot be based on foreseen faith, otherwise it is of works, which these verses clearly state against. So either your logic...

I'm sorry but this answer is not valid either. With this same logic, I could tell you that there is no possible way that God created the universe from nothing; nothing can come from nothing. And yet here we are. God is not like us in power and ability, nor in the sense of choices and decisions...

Sure. The answer is simple: Nothing. This is one of the great mysteries of God that cannot be explained, and in my opinion we honestly have no right demanding an answer to from God. He is the Creator and Sustainer of all things, and is free to dispense grace however he sees fit. If I must give...

So then what do you believe predestination is based on if not your foreseen faith?

And this correct choice is what you believe saves us. So you believe in works righteousness?

So God foresaw that you would make the correct decision.... which means that your correct choice is the true reason for your salvation, not God's grace. This is also known as works righteousness. So you believe in works righteousness?

So would you say this is also why God calls some? Because he sees that they have it in them to respond?

Like Jonah? How he had the option to go the other way? And yet.... he really didn't did he?

work noun 1. activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. choice noun 1. an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. By definition, a choice has to be a work. There is no possible way that it is not. I'm...

But you just stated that the result comes before the action. You said that it only makes [coming] possible. This does not align with what you just said. Here's what I mean; your logic as you explained it (or at least as I understood it) 1.) We come because He draws, but his drawing does not...

So you believe in works righteousness then?

I must say that, as far as I have read, your beliefs do indeed align with the more traditional reformed beliefs... you have some very well stated responses. I especially appreciate that you seem to want people to digest the Scripture as a whole... I agree completely. Too often, we take passages...

Did somebody say Calvin?!! It has begun lol. I saw this and had to reply! I love Calvin and am a Calvinist, in case you all didn't already know lol...

Agreed. And it is almost equally amazing that people think that just because a person thinks we should keep the law, that they must be works righteousness. It's honestly kind of funny in a sad sort of way

Welcome to the fam.

This is truth. Very well stated.