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The only thing you have correct is that Daniel 12:1 is meaning globally. Why do you only want to be partially correct here rather than entirely correct? If you are insisting you are correct don't you even fathom the utter nonsense this is implying here, that this means something local can be...

Of course they are the same events, same time period. In Mathew 24 verse 21 Jesus made it 100% undeniably crystal clear that this time of trouble can't be matched nor surpassed, that it will be the greatest time of trouble this world has ever seen since the beginning of the world to this...

IOW, your view implies that the following was fulfilled at that time--Revelation 20:7-15, even though you are denying it? After all, how can satan's little season end unless satan is cast into the LOF followed by the GWTJ?

If one believes that the thousand years precede the 2nd coming, that makes that person Amil, and in some cases, it makes the person Postmil. If one believes that the thousand years follow the 2nd coming, that makes that person Premil. This is not rocket science then. If your position is that...

That clearly makes you Amil then. It doesn't matter when you think the millennium ended. All Amils think the millennium ends eventually. You just happen to think it already ended. What makes your position bizarre though, is that you have a very short period of time meaning the same thing as a...

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: ) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any...

I can. For one the timeframe pertaining to Matthew 24:15-21 is meaning during the times of the Gentiles, and that Luke 21 is applying that after the destruction of the city and temple. Therefore, Matthew 24:15-21 is not meaning before the city and the 2nd temple was destroyed, it is meaning...

These are great points. I seem to recall you making these same points on that other board you and I are members of. And look what verse 9 says---and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. How can someone apply that to the first century before the gospel has managed to spread...

Obviously, words would be easier to follow than a drawing unless the drawing was like a floor plan and that you were skilled in reading floor plans. But if you simply drew what it is supposed to look like when it is finished, how would that be helpful? That would be like showing a carpenter a...

Speaking of something like that, but not to venture OT here since I have no desire in this thread to discuss and debate this subject, so, food for thought only. Numbers 35:4 And the suburbs of the cities, which ye shall give unto the Levites, shall reach from the wall of the city and outward a...

What about a scenario such as this? 5 ppl including you make a chart involving the same events on a timeline except none of you are coming to the same conclusions pertaining to the timeline of events. Does that not at least prove charts can contain errors since all of you can't be right if not...

Yet, I have explained my reasoning for doing that. It's not my fault if you find none of that convincing that Luke 17 is key in determining how to interpret Matthew 24:15-21.

Maybe the perspective is this? Those that are worshiping the beast for 42 months, thus during great tribulation, great tribulation is not having the same profound affect on them as it is having on those not worshiping the beast. Great tribulation is meaning upon those not worshiping beast, and...

Douggg, why do you choose to interpret Matthew 24 in such a way that you have Jesus all confused and all the place in the text? Can you not see that once He gets to verse 29 that He is at that point finished with the subject pertaining to great tribulation, and that He has moved on to a new...

And equally when His coming happens it is being compared with what happened at the time once Noah entered the ark. They obviously gave up eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. But not because they may have wanted to, but because they had no say so in the matter. Their life was...

Look at the logic you are using. You have dead ppl experiencing tribulation after they are dead rather than before they are dead. After all, what happened when the day came that Noah entered into the ark? Did not people on the earth begin to die soon after, not go on living for some more years...

Maybe your idea of reasonable is not the same as someone else's idea of reasonable, thus you reject anything and everything someone else submits because it doesn't live up to your standards as to what qualifies as reasonable? IMO, the following qualifies as reasonable, yet mark my words, you...

In the KJV first I did a search for all of the following words in the same verse---holy---place---Jerusalem. Not one single match. Then I did an exact phrase search for 'holy place'. Numerous matches, too many to list. Then casually browsing some of them, thus not thoroughly, I'm not noticing...

Look how you are arguing, though. That's not a valid argument. You are arguing something that did not involve a time of trouble with something that does involve a time of trouble. What was the time of trouble the earth was experiencing at the time leading up to the flood? Does the following...

Let's begin with this reasoning. Jesus indicated this concerning Matthew 24:21 which you take to be a local event---no, nor ever shall be. Surely you don't dispute that that means this time of trouble can't be equaled nor surpassed in greatness, that it is the greatest time of trouble ever...