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I didn't write the Bible so it isn't my claim. If Scripture is authoritative then the below verses are standalone prooftexts against limited atonement, contrary to your indefensible one-liner that they both support limited atonement. [sic] So again, care to point out where limited atonement is...

You made a claim, I provided Scripture that is explicitly contrary to your claim, you replied with a single-sentence denial, now I want your explanation. I don't have a burden of proof here unless you want me to copy and paste the same verses, again, that already explicitly make my point for me.

Jesus as elohim, perhaps, along with others directly called such. However, Jesus as YHWH the Lord God Almighty? no.

How so?

Don't know how it could be any clearer. Maybe you just need to see it more. 2 Corinthians 5 14For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that One died for all, therefore all died. 15And He died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died...

I think everyone who believes they believe in the "True Gospel" are confident about it, but confidence decorated with Bible verses and theology doesn't mean someone believes something factual. Belief can exist regardless of what the truth is. I would recommend you stop treating Calvinism as if...

Limited atonement wasn't taught to anyone until the 17th century. So no one was saved until after Calvin came along?

Was anyone saved before Calvin explained what limited atonement is?

The alternative to limited atonement is the Gospel. The premise of limited atonement is that Jesus’ death on the cross was intended to save only the elect, which are those who are predestined to salvation, but not all of humanity. Contrary to limited atonement stating salvation is only for the...

The verses I just showed you are not compatible with limited atonement. I am thinking you just don't agree or believe with what the Bible says. It would be difficult to begin with verses that explicitly do not negotiate with a limited style of atonement and then work backwards. Your foundation...

Oh ok. The below verses are true or no? 1 John 2 2He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. Romans 3 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption...

Limited atonement doesn't state "you must believe in limited atonement in order to believe in the true Gospel." Limited atonement only attempts to define what the Gospel is, but only that the Gospel must be believed in order for one to receive atonement and thus be proven to be elect under the...

The biggest disadvantage your limited atonement doctrine has is that it is neither explicitly stated or described in the Bible. You've parsed it out like a good lawyer, contrary to what the plain text of the Scripture says, which is that anyone in the world can be saved or have their sins atoned...

I believe it could work if one wants to accept it, but Adam was not under the curse of Adam or original sin, but rather he was a sinless man who willingly chose to sin and die spiritually. Since sin is a choice then coming to saving faith is a choice. Thus atonement is not limited.

Paul draws congruency between Adam and Jesus. Sin entered the world and spread to all through one man, yet concluded the passage by saying "how much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!" Paul's...

I would suggest you read Romans 5:12-17. It would seem that if limited atonement is true then sin is more powerful than God and that can't be true. Plainly, if everyone can sin then everyone can be atoned for. Romans 5 12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death...

I know that in Christianity that we have differing views on many things among the various denominations, sects, groups, and even individuals. What I have often experienced is that regardless of the presentation of new facts, it normally does little to sway one away from the things they believe...

Yes I read and understood it. I believe the case of Judas challenges the limited atonement doctrine. I understand you don't want to discuss it here. I will open a thread later when I have time. I've been wanting to open a thread on what the Gospel actually is lately.

We are both speaking about limited atonement, but the case of Judas is related to it directly in the context of John 17:9, which was one of the verses you quoted to support your doctrine. I understand that what I asked is not an easy question for Reformed theology to account for. Please take...

Salvation is on the table and Judas is involved. The scope of limited atonement, based on your teachings, either includes Judas as saved or says he is not saved, contrary to Judas being chosen/given to Jesus. This is relevant to your topic. We need to iron out how someone can lose their or not...