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  1. GodsGrace

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    1. God is not dumb. He didn't regret doing anything. Some scripture is anthropomorphic and shouldn't be taken literally. 2. Did you ever buy a pet? Did you know he was going to die? Did you buy him anyway? We have an opportunity to be with God forever. That's a good reason to create man...
  2. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I don't like The Message....I was using it as an extreme example. Let me put it this way C,,,, Kids today are not too interested in the bible. Take a look at my avatar. I teach kids....I know first-hand what I'm talking about. They have enough of a problem just dealing with the bible... let...
  3. GodsGrace

    Why do you believe that, after death, it's too late for Jesus to save people?

    Are you a universalist then? The ability to be saved after death is a different topic. You're correct. Jesus' death paid for the sins of ALL PEOPLE. His sacrifice was SUFFICIENT for everyone, past, present and future. BUT There are conditions to the atonement. It must be accepted and we must...
  4. GodsGrace

    Why do you believe that, after death, it's too late for Jesus to save people?

    Sorry, had to leave for a couple of days...will also look for you other post that was to me. The bible does NOT say that people cannot choose to follow Jesus after they die because it's self-understood. Paul said that it's appointed for man to die ONCE, and then comes the judgment. And THEN...
  5. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    C, I'm not speaking about meaning and context. I'm talking about properly representing the words used in the original Greek. In the English versions, the word HELL is always used. There's only one place in the NT that actually means what we understand as being hell: 2 Peter 2:4 4For if God...
  6. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Nothing you do that could be helpful to either the Body or those outside of the Body is a waste of time. What we dedicate to God will always have some type of good turn-out. Even if we never even see it.
  7. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    This is funny Rockerduck! @Eternally Grateful is absolutely correct about the language situation. If I said to you: I agape you or I eros you YOU wouldn't find any difference because they're both translated LOVE. But there's a world of difference that the English does not pick up...
  8. GodsGrace

    THE NEW JERUSALEM PART II

    I do believe I agree with you. It's a place... The confusion (or whatever it is) comes because the NT also speaks of WHO will inhabit this PLACE. Coming from knowing very little, I'll have to say this is what makes most sense to me. (having read all the verses given to me).
  9. GodsGrace

    THE NEW JERUSALEM PART II

    But it does state in Rev 21:9-10 that the angel will show John THE GREAT CITY....the HOLY JERUSALEM, descending out of heaven... wouldn't this necessarily have to be at the end of the world? You're talking about the Mosaic Covenant. I never thought of it as the first marriage but only as a...
  10. GodsGrace

    THE NEW JERUSALEM PART II

    @grafted branch Hi GB, This is what you had stated in the original thread re the New Jerusalem. I did check out all your verses. My replies are in green... I think one of the major differences people have on New Jerusalem is whether it represents the Church or not. I’m in the camp that it...
  11. GodsGrace

    THE NEW JERUSALEM PART II

    This is what I believe. I'm having a little difficulty trying to understand why some others cannot accept this.... I don't even think it's a SYMBOL. It's God's holy people AND The place where these people will live for eternity.
  12. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Right. I posted to @St. SteVen that I agreed with him regarding the source and the resource. However, yes,,, it would need to be clarified a little. THE SOURCE is GOD As I stated in my posts 40 and 67. BUT We also need a RESOURCE to help us to know that God.... this, of course, would be the...
  13. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    You could tell me why.... I believe it's because the words were added by someone - maybe a scribe for whatever reason.... and then it gets copied into the actual body.
  14. GodsGrace

    THE NEW JERUSALEM PART II

    @Berean Hi B, this is what you stated in the original thread (that got locked).... "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down...
  15. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    @St. SteVen Yes. Sad. I think the KJV is out-dated.... (but poetically beautiful.)
  16. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Agreed Behold. Why read a commentary? It's DIFFERENT opinions by DIFFERENT persons. I like to read on my own...if I have a problem, I use different verses and, on rare occasion, will use a commentary to clarify something or other... but not for doctrine. I believe the NT is very clear on...
  17. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Agreed ! I stated this in both my post 40 and 67.... exactly the same idea.
  18. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Amen! This is why it's called a relationship in Christian parlance.
  19. GodsGrace

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I think it's great that we have this new information. My copy of the KJV contains John 5:4 with no notification.