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  1. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Lol Re read it. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Falling away. Yes we are in that now. Antichrist REVEALED. NOT IN POWER NOT RULING Ahem....Obama was REVEALED long...
  2. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. They were divided on most everything. Heresy galore Hmmmm...and you base your beliefs there in that chasm of heresy.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The concept of Jesus gathering His bride pretrib causes them great tribulation...lol
  4. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No My disagreement is in your misunderstanding. The ONLY PLACE anyone is burned up is the LOF. That can not possibly be at the rapture. You are just placing the TWO SEPARATE EVENTS together. Two COMPLETELY separate events Concerning 2 thes 1;4-10, where is there a rapture? Those passages are...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture Cover-up

    Mat 25 the groom gathers the bride in the virgins parable. Rev 19 the bride has become the wife. The last supper dialog is the same dialogue as the Jewish betrothal. In the book of Ruth the gentile bride , Ruth, is in the covenant with Boaz who was the kinsman redeemer. Jesus told the Pharisees...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Have you ever investigated ANYTHING? YOU simply troll in here and lie your head off. Then accuse everyone challenging your error of "no verses" A telephone pole is more coherent than your trolling nonsense. I challenged all of you a year ago to provide a single postrib rapture verse None of...
  7. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Lying is still your banner huh?
  8. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ask them to post a single postrib rapture verse Just one. Get ready for a good laugh.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Just keep your beliefs afloat by omission of the pretrib rapture verses. You guys are masters of omission And celebrate it!!!!
  10. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I am amazed at how many do not investigate what Jesus did in decending into Hades and paradise. David is now in heaven as are all the patriarchs. They were raised and seen in Jerusalem They are firstfruits along with Jesus.
  11. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The millineum is before the judgement into the LOF
  12. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The reason they're wrong about all that ,is because both lot ,and Noah, were taken, removed, or gathered ,whatever you want to call it, under normal living conditions, with buying and selling, marrying ,and giving in marriage. in other words normal life and then they were suddenly taken. And...
  13. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture Cover-up

    Not only that, but the rapture verses are all pretrib Rev 14:14 only fits a pretrib rapture. Mat 24:38 only fits a pretrib rapture Rev 19 only fits a pretrib rapture Acts 1 ( like manner) only fits pretrib rapture Lots gathering only fits pretrib rapture. "One taken/left" only fits pretrib...
  14. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture Cover-up

    There are no postrib rapture verses All the rapture verses are NOT IN THE SETTING that you need them to be. They are in the OPPOSITE setting.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture Cover-up

    Please stop replacing the pretrib rapture via omission of the pretrib rapture verses. You have no understanding of the groom gathering the bride.
  16. rebuilder 454

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I just happened to be reading in Matthew and saw that verse. I went "huh?"..reread it. Thank You Jesus !!!!!!! !! !
  17. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Paul is talking about the gathering of the bride. You got it completely wrong.
  18. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ahem...show me Lot rescued post Sodom firestorm. Which is what you are saying. BOTH GATHERED BEFORE ANY JUDGEMENT. You are not aware that a postrib model has both rescued post judgement????? You really can not see the normal life setting of the pretrib rapture verses???? The Bible clearly has 2...
  19. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You do not understand the purpose of the great tribulation. It is Jacob's trouble. ( Israel's trouble) Romans 9, 10, and 11 describe The salvation of Israel. Regrafted back in. Rev 14 is the gathering of them mid trib. No matter what you think you know, Rev 14 has 2 gatherings of The Jewish...
  20. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There are two great battles in the end times. One on the white horses, when Jesus returns post tribulation, and another one at the end of the Millennium when Satan is loosed and gathers all the rebellious people in the millennium. But it's not clear if every man woman and child on the planet is...