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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Rev 19 has the church in heaven along with the marriage supper....AHEM... DURING THE TRIB TL challenged you concerning Rev 19 You were UNABLE to respond. Instead you respond with non applicable off topic generalities.( As you showed us in your quote above) You just exposed what you are about.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amils need their own thread They are unreachable. I may as well talk to a telephone pole as try to address them.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There are 2 Mt Zions. One in heaven One on earth. " There are two – one on earth and one in heaven. On earthly Mount Zion refers to Jerusalem. But there is a corresponding Mount Zion in heaven. Hebrews 12:22 refers to it: “But you have come to Mount Zion, the city of the Living God, the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is the kind of stuff you center on. desperately diverting away from the basis of the trib. It is like arguing over the length of time it took the WTC to fall and using it to prove an earthquake actually knocked the towers down Do you like 3 years? 4 years ? 8 years? 2 years? 1 month? It...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The stephanous crown is similar to a crown at some sports event winner. Jesus wears diadems at his white horse appearing. Kingly crowns Yet another thing pointing to a bogus fake Jesus on a horse at the start of the gt
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is way off. The 1st horse rider is not Jesus. It is the false christ, the antichrist. When Jesus comes on a white horse He is accompanied by millions of saints blackening the sky. He comes on horses AFTER the 7 yr gt. What you are supposing is impossible. That false Jesus is at tge door ...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is refreshing seeing the members in here politely bouncing versus back and forth, debating and being respectful. We may not agree on things, but we can still love each other. Kudos to everyone
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    CadyandZoe said: """Hmm. Okay. It says that he is carrying a bow. What does the bow represent? Thanks. :)""" A bow is for killing. He is " Antichrist " He is Both against the true Christ, while claiming he is the true Christ...complete with signs, wonders and miracles. Millions martyred who...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Rev14 :3 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I have had fellow pre-tribers Vehemently Disagree With the fact That not all the church is raptured. It is kind of weird How someone can read Matthew 25 ,And not know ,Roughly half of the church is rejected. I got kicked off of a forum Called " Rapture ready", by fellow Pre-Trib Believers...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They are before the throne, in heaven, and it says they have been redeemed the earth earth. Yet another rapture. I can not for the life if me see how anyone can think there is only one coming. Seems impossible. .....and postribbers ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM HINGES on one coming.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The first Horseman That actually kicks off the GT Is the Antichrist ,he comes on a white horse, and He's a fake Jesus And murders millions of Christians. In order for the GT to have started somewhere in history you would have needed to see the requirement of worship of the Antichrist, and the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Lots of people disagree on that term. Several camps have it split up in "trib", "GT", "wrath". It is actually a 7 yr great tribulation, with the last half containg greater trib or wrath. I don't center much on that rabbit trail. 7 Years of great tribulation kicked off by the 4 horsemen.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Vs 14 is not about them. The 144k are in heaven before vs 14's gathering
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We both believe he comes back after the trib. Your error is trying to FORCE " like manner " into a warrior king accompanied by millions of saints, with millions of horses blackening the sky , slaughtering the army of satan,Satan,. Now let's look at the Bible without the "one coming" blinders...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    None pf us Gentiles are from Jewish tribes. The 144k are vividly depicted as ethnic Jews. Again romans 9-11 tells us God's future plan to bring back the covenant Jews. Actually impossible to miss
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    In acts 1,The angels told the disciples that He would return in the same manner. ( that would be no horses, no sickle, or anyone with Him) ( it also is the setting of commerce and normal life) Everything present in a postrib rapture make Acts one " like manner" a total lie.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Without the understanding of the illustration of the ot, Rev can not be understood. For example, Rev 5 can not be understood without Ruth. " the kinsman redeemer" Jesus the God man.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Quote: "He is coming on a cloud right?" Yes.the pretrib rapture is vividly depicted in Acts ch 1. " He ascended into the clouds and the angels declared the would return in the exact same setting.." There is not a single postrib rapture teaching, that can unpack the setting of every rapture...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The 144,000 Jewish believers are Before the Throne in Revelation 14. they have been gathered to heaven. They are first fruits unto God that vividly portrays them as being first fruits of the main Harvest . "first fruits" is directly connected to harvest it is the first part of the Harvest...