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  1. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Rev 14: 14. The Jewish main harvest. You= babble, Nothing, and ridiculous. Wow
  2. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    ....ahem, 667 comes after 666. 776 com ....ahem, 667 comes after 666 776 comes before 777. The Bible SPECIFICALLY says : "six hundred, sixty, and six". That is to stop humans from misrepresenting it as 6-6-6. It would be like paying $555 at the store with three "five dollar bills"
  3. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Re read it. "Before the flood ( pretrib setting), one taken, one left, watch and be ready" Note the setting is commerce and normal life. The setting is way way off to try and fit it in your postrib model. What part of that did you NOT change? 100% pretrib rapture. Fits like a glove You need to...
  4. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The AC kills every man woman and child refusing the mark...fact. Some people think that " enduring to the end" is 2 or 3 hundred believers running from cave to cave with the AC hot on their heels. Way, way off. All die that refuse the mark. ALL. I have never encountered a postrib rapture...
  5. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I challenged postribbers a few months back to offer some postrib rapture verse. They could not.
  6. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Note that you could not respond with any postrib rapture verses. Yes I agree. There are none. Zero.
  7. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Outermost part of earth is the atmosphere. ..and note I do not need to call names as you do in every post. You are at a point where your nastiness is beyond your controll. You literally can not communicate in a calm civil manner. Sad. ( but no charge on continually educating you, and...
  8. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Jesus said : before the flood, one taken, one left. You calling Jesus a satanic liar is pitiful friend.
  9. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Rev 14: 14 the Jewish harvest vivid and basic. You =" babble and nothing " What a disgusting view and attitude. Just plain nasty.
  10. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Nope Does not Meet the criteria of a parable Not only that, we see Jesus went down into the Earth and preached to the patriarchs. A parable does not use names, because it is a story within a story.
  11. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Here: "Amen! And yet the Living Word has foretold told us: Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped...
  12. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I hope ALL OF YOU know that the postrib rapture doctrine has a foundation. It is "only one coming" Rev 14:14 makes that entire premise A LIE. ( and many more verses) beating a dead horse with zero verses. Postrib rapture doctrine is so poorly thought out. Why do they cling to error? It is 2...
  13. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The chirch The Church can not be on earth at the 7th trump. Impossible. The gathering of Jews is before the 7th trump. IOW ...DURING THE TRIB. your doctrine has the dead in Christ NOT RISING FIRST. Due to Jesus comes in Rev 14:14, DURING THE TRIB. most postribs are completely blinded to that.
  14. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    That is mat 24 Every position believes that. But it is not, nor can be , the rapture. if you read it carefully, after the tribulation, angels gather...not Jesus, He rides a horse, and is not the groom gathering the bride. There are no horses in ANY RAPTURE verses. Plus that gathering is IN...
  15. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The 144 k are ethnic Jews. Vividly depicted. Rev7 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed...
  16. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Lol Jesus on a cloud Jesus on a horse Jesus gathers the bride in virgin parable ( those 3 DISTINCT AND VIVID GATHERINGS ARE CORRUPTED BY YOUR TEACHERS) Jesus comes after the tribulation in mat 24 Jesus comes BEFORE THE FLOOD in mat 24 Jesus comes BEFORE SODOM DESTROYED (All rapture verses are...
  17. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    He is in power at the first seal. He is revealed way before the seals. Obama is a good example. Revealed way before he was in power.
  18. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Only the dead in christ are raised and raptured at the pretrib rapture. Your verses are the dead raised after the millennium...and that resurrection is unto judgement. I am seeing a lot of this. A total misunderstanding of what the rapture is. It is the gathering of the bride.
  19. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    They are jews. Ethnic jews. They are harvested after the 144k firstfruit Jews. Verse 14 is the Jewish main harvest . They follow the firstfruits jews who are gathered to heaven (earlier, around verse 4 or so.) The coming you are looking at is way, way different. That one is on horses with...
  20. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Sorry. You are determined to omit verses. Only pretrib rapture allows for rev 14:14, mat 24 ( 2 gatherings),and mat 25 the 10 virgin parable No other position incorporates the pretrib rapture verses