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Even if Christ is meant, nothing there supports Pretrib though, so I don't know why Pretribbers somehow think this verse helps their position one way or the other?

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you...

Logic says, if another angel came out of the temple, there must be a prior angel that came out of the temple first. Where then is this first angel that came out of the temple if not meaning the one meant in verse 14? Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud...

What does any of that have to do with Revelation 22:18 in particular? Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: One can't apply...

Hmmm..I see where you are going with that, the fact I'm a Premil. Very good point then, on your part by bringing that up. Good point. You indeed might be right about that, but even so, these 7 last plagues still only make sense if being poured out on ppl living in the same era of time. For...

Why do a lot of interpreters, pretribbers and post-tribbers alike, take that passage to be meaning Christ? Ephesians 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and...

Per this subject pertaining to the OP, it seems to me several things seem rather obvious. 1) Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not...

Talk about flinging insults, something you have charged others having done. And assuming they are guilty of having done that, here you are just as guilty as well.. As if some of us have never read Genesis 9 before, where God promised neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of...

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and...

Why are you being so vague here with your answer? Why not just make it clear to us how you are interpreting verse 39, including where you are placing it in the timeline of events? Do you take it mean at the beginning of great trib, or at the end of it? It would be a contradiction to take it mean...

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Point out which word means 'begin' in this verse so I can check Strong's to see...

Obviously, verse 40 and 41 are also being applied to verse 39. What is your interpretation of verse 39 then? Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Some examples of how some interpretations give the impression Jesus must have been confused throughout the Discourse, where one minute He is talking about events involving the end of this age, the next minute He is again referring to first century events, then the next minute He is once again...

Unless you disagree that Matthew 24:30 is pertaining to His 2nd coming in the end of this age, why do you assume Jesus saw that as relevant, the fact He brings it up, but sees zero pertaining to 2 Thessalonians 2:4 relevant as well, thus He ignores that subject altogether? When I say something...

Randy, why would you or any interpreter want to interpret the Discourse in a such a manner where it has Jesus totally ignorant of the fact that what is recorded in 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 4 in particular, that this has to fit somewhere before He can return? Why would Jesus leave that out of the...

One thing that is undeniable, the fact Matthew 24:29, for one proves it, the DOTL is immediately after great tribulation. Therefore, any interpretation that insists great tribulation follows the beginning of the DOTL is making Jesus out to be a liar per Matthew 24:29 since He is on record in...

I'm not necessarily disputing that deceivers were already present 2000 years ago. What I'm trying to determine specifically is where Matthew 24:23-26 fits in relation to Matthew 24:15-22, since some interpreters I have encountered in the past insist it is meaning after what verses 15-22 are...

Clearly, the 5th seal is involving great tribulation. Therefore, I'm fully in agreement with you about that, not in disagreement instead. The post after this one of yours, I posted that before I saw your post here. Maybe some of that post makes my view a bit clearer? Where it then seems to me...

The way I interpret the Discourse is like such. The events involving it began in the first century post that of Christ's ascension and are involving events during His ascension through His return following His ascension. Per this view it allows for some of the Discourse to be involving what...

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you...