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I'm not taking Amos 5 to be literally involving physical darkness to begin with. I'm just pointing out that if everything recorded in Matthew 24:29 were to happen in a literal sense, what would that add up to? Exactly what Amos 5 is describing, darkness, very dark, no light at all. Of course...

Interesting, what you highlighted here, in regards to a mouth.

Douggg, first of all, and I have been over this with you before on another board, your Anytime Rapture is nothing but a Pretrib rapture with another name. Call it what it is then, Pretrib. You can't have it both ways. Are you perhaps ashamed to be labeled Pretrib, so, in your mind, you came up...

Exactly! I agree with you 100% here since that is how the text reads to me as well. And besides, according to Revelation 16 involving some of the vials, it says they repented not. Which then at least tells us repenting is still an option at this point, except they refuse to repent. How is it...

The thing to get right first is where does it fit in relation to great tribulation? The following makes it undeniably clear to some of us where it fits in relation to that. But what you brought up per 2 Thessalonians 2:4 though, that is meaning during great tribulation, thus does not involve the...

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers...

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers...

Something to factor in here I guess, in regards to what the secular world has decided what Armageddon is involving, would be this. Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet 7 For...

I don't fully understand it, either. The main thing I'm trying to figure out for now though, where does it logically fit? Does it fit before the 2nd coming, or after the 2nd coming? What happens if we factor in the following? Isaiah 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke...

Let me try and explain why I do. Let's start with the following. Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at...

Much of what you posted in this post I am somewhat on the same page with you for the most part. In particular what you posted concerning Ezekiel 37. But even so, in my mind, unless I'm just reading things entirely wrong in Ezekiel 38-39, the house of Israel meant in those 2 chapters, God is...

While you and I clearly agree that Ezekiel 38-39 is endtimes, there are some interpreters that disagree. An example of an interpreter that would disagree would be @Truth7t7. It is obvious that he disagrees after reading what he said per the following post in another thread of yours. Which...

There might be a way around this even if assuming Premil. Ezekiel 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they...

If it were me I think I would at least include the birth of Christ here. The reason why, though there might be some interpreters that agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits before great trib, not all of them also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits after the birth of Christ.

Hopefully no one takes this to mean that I'm a Dispy, but what appears to explain Ezekiel 38-39 to me is 70 AD followed by them being exiled from the land then returning to the land around the middle of the 20th century. We have to keep in mind that the house of Israel meant in these 2 chapters...

The following is a problem for anyone insisting Ezekiel 38-39 was fulfilled ages ago. And it's equally a problem for Premil when you think about it. Ezekiel 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on...

And there is a real good reason for that. And that is because there are numerous things recorded in Ezekiel 38 and 39 that simply can't fit what is recorded in Esther. Therefore, a big waste of time entertaining the idea that somehow the book of Esther explains Ezekiel 38 and 39.

A point I was going to raise myself. If anyone should know the Jews history, it would be the Jews themselves. Yet, not one single Jew I have conversed with in the past thinks this war was fulfilled ages ago. They all said it is a future war that hasn't happened yet. Ezekiel 39:9 And they that...

Does this mean you agree that Ezekiel 39:9 and Ezekiel 39:12 fit at the beginning of the millennium? That's the only logical place I can see it fitting myself. Like you, I too agree that Ezekiel 39:4 and Ezekiel 39:17-20 are referring to the same events, not 2 diffrent events separated by 7...

Except none of that matters in regards to the point I was trying to make. Amils argue that chilioi in Revelation 20, meaning a thousand in that chapter, that it is not literally meaning 1000, it is meaning more than 1000. Unless my Strong's is wrong, and maybe it is for all I know, it records...