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  1. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I don't think it's quite as bad as that. You can actually escape that. Peter wrote a good passage on it. I highly recommend at least the first two chapter of 2 Peter 1. 2 Peter 1 (KJV) 1Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us...
  2. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I partially don't agree with this. You aren't sinning every moment, every second, are you? I hope not! I think most people prove they can stop sinning right here, right now, even for just a few hours while they sleep. People sin because their desires are evil. This isn't a question aimed at you...
  3. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Legally, Jesus had sin applied to him even though he technically never sinned (2 Cor. 5:21). He received the penalty for sin which is death as you said. But what I would add is that it wasn't just Jesus' body that died, but his soul as well. I get that from Isaiah 53:10.
  4. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Yes, but Jesus needed to be saved from Hades by God. Acts 2 24Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I...
  5. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Jesus was not a sinner of course, he never sinned, but even Jesus was tempted in every way a normal person was yet God cannot be tempted. Hebrews 4 15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet...
  6. Runningman

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    Yes absolutely. They had completely different opinions than what those who knew Jesus face to face decided to write about. I think it's because Trinitarianism became the dominant school of thought over time and the gnostic and Unitarian writings either got destroyed as heresy or were lost to...
  7. Runningman

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    Creeds are basically someone's commentary and theology. They couldn't agree that any of them would be included in the canonized Bible.
  8. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Yet even Jesus needed a savior... Hebrews 5 7Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
  9. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Yet Jesus even has a God like we all do. John 20 17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
  10. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Yet even Jesus had God's grace because he needed it like all people do. Luke 2 40And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
  11. Runningman

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    Yes, but there is something older than the creeds. So the creeds are new ideas, relatively speaking. That's why I say Catholics and Protestants and liberal. Very few of the creeds can be found to say the same exact kind of things the Old and New Testament do. I could possibly agree that a...
  12. Runningman

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    A liberal Christian would be a Christian who believes church creeds and commentaries are of equal or greater importance than Scripture. In my point of view, this encompasses most of church. For example, the Catholics are most liberal and Protestant less liberal than the Catholics. Conservative...
  13. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    People don't have the benefit of asking the writers questions about what they meant. So that is why there are over 47K denominations, sub-denominations, sects, and cults who all attach their beliefs to the Bible. Everyone is simply interpreting what they think it's saying. Some can be correct...
  14. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    After much change he must have reached a point where he isn't changing anymore.
  15. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Well, John 1:9, though the KJV is a bit awkward with it, is actually written in the present tense. So after John the Baptist was already bearing witness of the true Light coming into the world, the true light was coming into the world. Since this is what JTB was bearing witness of, this would...
  16. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    My argument has never been nor ever will be that God is confused and contradicting himself. I believe you have wrongly come to that conclusion, like so many others have, because you will never change, as you have already confessed, therefore you can't be wrong. Essentially, you have made me a...
  17. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The Jesus being the same "yesterday, today, and forever" doesn't speak to eternally unchanging. Jesus has changed a lot.
  18. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    John 1:10 does not say Jesus made the world. Read verse 9... the true Light was coming into the world in the present tense when Jesus would have been at about the age of 30. The true Light made the world.
  19. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Jesus is a man, not a spirit or The Spirit, according to Scripture, though he later "became" a life-giving spirit at God's discretion.
  20. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    He came out with the same conditional mortality as he had in the first place. Can God give life and take life way?