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    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Well, yes, but not yet completely. Otherwise we would now be sinless also (instead of, for now, no longer being condemned for our sin... because our our having been imputed the righteousness of Christ. Right? He was fully God... and fully man. I will fully and absolutely agree with you that...
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    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Okay, well, I disagree. I say that while He walked the earth, He was fully man... but also fully God. No, those two things are not congruent. The sin nature speaks of our propensity to sin. In other words, since we have this sinful nature from birth, the fact ~ the inevitability, because of...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    LOL! Noah was not removed from the flood. He floated... in a big boat, of course... through it... and in... more than a foot of water. His life was preserved. LOL! Jonah's story is similar to Noah's in several ways, although he was voluntarily thrown into the water, and God used...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The coming of the Son of Man will be very sudden. Disagree. In Revelation 7, the 144,000 of the first half of the chapter and the innumerable multitude of the last half of the chapter are the same group of people, but showing different things about that group, the first half the true...
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    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Agree. But, because He was also God, He remained uncorrupted. Not... solely. As God, he also had an anti-sin nature. :) No, it was because He also had the full nature of God. Yes, He could have sinned, and in His humanness was prone to do so as we are. But in His Godliness, he was able...
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    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    I'd agree with this in one sense, but disagree in the other. Jesus had a dual nature, He was both God and man. So He was both of God ~ 100% God ~ and of man ~ 100% man. So I would disagree with what you say in the latter sense. Expounding on that: Jesus was tempted in every way we are, yet...
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    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Adam said nothing, but went along with his wife in her deception. The point is, Adam knew very well what God told him in Genesis 2:17, that if he partook of the fruit of the forbidden tree, he would surely, in that very day, die. And he had related this to Eve at some point, which we know...
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    The Rightful Owners will occupy the Holy Land

    Ugh... :) Yet again. Wonder how long this one will go? :) Christ's millennial reign is from heaven, seated at the right hand of God. So, since His ascension and even up to now. :) Jesus Christ is our King. Now. :) One day, and maybe very soon even from our perspective ~ because...
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    No idea what you're saying here. I'm... not with EQW on... quite a bit of stuff. :) I mean... people are going to disagree on just about anything... :) Okay, good. :) What makes you think Jesus is not present? I would say He is... I would say the second coming ~ though not explicit ~ is...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    "The flood continued forty days on the earth. The waters increased and bore up the ark, and it rose high above the earth" (Genesis 7:17). Hey, I have a question. It's rhetorical, really; no answer necessary... :) Actually, two, maybe... :) So the waters increased over the course of the...
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    One last thing with regard to the original subject: When we see "new song," we should not really that the song is "new" or that it is different, really, than it used to be, but we should think "Gospel." :) Grace and peace to all.
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    Was Jesus not buried after "giving up His spirit"? He was... in the tomb. His body was in the tomb. Well, that's because it's the right one. :) And this is why we call it 'orthodox.' :) Hmm, well, do you understand the 'emptying' (related by Paul in Philippians 2) to mean that Jesus...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Sure, but the point I'm making, and you seem to be voicing agreement with ~ is that, for someone who sees a lot of symbolism in a writing (in this case Revelation), they are not making it into an allegory, so the characterization of it as such is wrong. Well, the ideas can be abstract, but in...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    There is no allegorical interpretation. People characterize it as such, but it's a total mischaracterization... and often is done very purposely and disingenuously. And some just kind of blindly follow suit... :) No, allegories may contain symbols from time to time, but allegory and...
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    Well, the day they were crucified and died. Jesus's "descension into hell" was being forsaken by the Father because of His (Jesus's) having taken on sin. I'm sure that will open up a can of worms, if not with you, with some others... :) Christ is being spoken of here, 6Stories, and the...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Sure they do. And sometimes the relationship is one to many, rather than one to one. But sure, that's... basically the definition of symbolism. To denounce symbolic interpretations as "allegories" ~ or even not literal ~ is terribly misguided. Agreed. But wooden literalism is often the...
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    I would submit to you, 6Stories (interesting moniker!), that you should see eternity in these two songs... eternity past and eternity future, or at least Creation in the first and the new Creation ~ New Heaven and New Earth ("Behold, I am making all things new"; Revelation 21:5) ~ in the second...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Ummmm... That is the single greatest message board quote I think I have ever heard. :laughing: I mean, not all prophecy in the Bible contains symbolic imagery, but much of it certainly does, and that prophecy cannot be credibly talked about without acknowledging it. Yeah, that is just a...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Sure there are. But, as I'm sure you well know, His Kingdom is not of this world. Well, I disagree... in both ways: 1) of this world (past, present, and going forward), and 2) not of this world (past, present, and throughout eternity. I agree. :) But there is a worldly application (which we...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Sure. His ethnicity. But he also categorized himself as one of God's true Jews, which He became in the dramatic episode related to us in Acts 9. Right, which he further explained as his "kinsman according to the flesh." And then he immediately explains that "not all who are descended from...