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This is a generalization, but I'm confident that for those who witness these kinds of things, the mind says no, but the eyes say yes. It's an exciting feeling. Apparently some react to it by appealing to reflective birds.

I would love to see something like that fly as fast as you describe it.

"Or, perhaps, as some people have speculated, the arc of green lights represented nothing more than migrating birds reflecting a new lighting system installed along 19th Street near Texas Technological College." LOL!

@Seven of Nine @Devin Wintch Ever seen a bright light in the starry sky zigzagging seemingly randomly without changing speed nor curving its turns, even going backwards at times? That was my second, perhaps even first most amazing experience regarding unexplained sightings. The thought of it...

Would it matter if the Beamer's name were actually Scott? Or is someone about to be called Scotty regardless of what their name is?

As someone who has seen a full sized saucer craft rising straight up in the daylit sky near me for several minutes, I can vouch that they probably do exist. Flying saucers, that is. There is the possibility that my eyes, along with the people's who were next to me, were mistaken. I don't know...

Farouk, what do you think that collection of verses shows?

Precisely! When God gives this free gift, it is according to His own will, and not the sinner. - Daniel 4:35 - Ephesians 2:8 - Hebrews 12:2

What is the gift?

I think I have seen it more than once, but I cannot recall any specific ones besides the one I shared here. If I see that gentleman again I will pay more attention to the verse he has on his arm.

Have you considered that free gift being Christ? John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. Now do you think the sinner has power over the Father to leave His grasp? Do you think God gives according to the sinner's heart? Is...

Thanks for joining the discussion, Ronald. Apart from God, as in, not controlled by God. When it is understood this way, it is seen that there is no false dichotomy here.

As the Scripture says, Romans 9:11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I...

I figure we're probably about to see a discussion unfold about what "all things" are relative to.

You said, "nothing spectacular in being sovereign, when you have everyone hard-wired to do your will". My question for you is whether or not it is spectacular for God to do something when there is no one around Him that has a free will from Him. If the answer to my question is negative, then...

Where? Then you cannot just flippantly say that God does not exist. But neither of us have said those things, so what is the point of this? I disagree. Do you perhaps have Scripture showing this that I can consider?

Thanks for responding. If God chose to not foreknow something, then He was not all knowing. Why would our universe have been destroyed a long time ago? Do you perhaps figure that God's power is only destroying and not sustaining? Genesis says that God rested on the seventh day, but Jesus...

@farouk How do you pronounce Farouk?

What are your thoughts on that verse, Farouk?