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    Matthew 24

    How could it be a mistake? Let's look at the text again. Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. The text plainly says, that until all these things be fulfilled first, in the meantime this generation shall not pass away. What...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    He is likely SDA, and if so, SDAs are Premils who think that saints who put on bodily immortality at the last trump when Christ returns, that they spend the thousand years in heaven not earth. Though I disagree with this, this is not the same as what happens in this age after one dies but before...
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    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    What you really mean instead, you need Shepherds Chapel to guide you and understand.
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    Matthew 24

    Sometimes it is hard to follow what you are meaning since you apparently have this generation meaning both the unbelieving Jews and the elect of Israel, whatever that is supposed to mean. Then you saying this generation, apparently meaning the unbelieving Jews and the elect of Israel, shall not...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    It boils down to this then. For me to accept an Amil interpretation of Zechariah 14:9 that it is already involving the here and now, means that I first need to accept your interpretation since your interpretation is not contradicting anything recorded in Zechariah 14:9. Your interpretation...
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    Matthew 24

    Roger, it's simple if we allow 2 Peter 2 and 2 Peter 3, for example, to help us interpret 'this generation' meant in the Discourse. 2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    Even though I don't agree with you here, does this at least mean that you agree that Zechariah 14:9 can't parallel the era of time involving 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and can't come to pass until the 7th trumpet has sounded first, since I'm assuming, unless you tell me otherwise, that you likely also...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    Read what the text actually says, meaning all of what that verse says, not just some of what it says. Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. in that day shall there be one LORD Now compare that with this, for...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    Even though I didn't see you mention 70 AD, unless I overlooked it or something, it is still obvious that you take some of Zechariah 14 to be involving 70 AD. And besides, I already know you do from past discussions with you. Any interpretation that insists anything in Zechariah 14 is involving...
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    Matthew 24

    Speaking of problems, you are inventing problems that are not even true about me, lol. I already realize, and even said so, that the Discourse is mainly involving the church during His ascension through His return and what happens after He returns. As to Flavius Josephus, guess what? I have...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    Pertaining to Christ, there are 2 advents seperated by an ascension. Some of Zechariah already focused on His first advent, for example, Zechariah 9:9. But when we get to Zechariah 14, the focus then shifts to the latter part of His ascension, then His 2nd advent, then what follows His returning...
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    Matthew 24

    Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. Since...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    You or me or maybe even both of us must have ESP or something. Before you even posted this I was already in the process of finally getting around to trying to address post #18, where I then did that per the post preceding this one.
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    In my view, in that day is simply involving an era of time. Where that can mean it begins with His first advent and continues with His 2nd advent and beyond even. These things still happen in that day, the era of time meant. This is when discernment is important, so that one can maybe discern...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    That is my view as well. I don't know for 100% certain if this view is correct. I hope it is, though. What's interesting about this, it is called a lake of fire. A lake compared to a sea or ocean is rather small in comparison. Why not a sea of fire instead? After all, doesn't the biggest...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    As to those verses, once again, until verse 12 is fulfilled first, those verses can't come to pass in the meantime. The text indicates that there are some who the plagues per verse 12 were not poured upon as well. One can't have verses 16-19 already being applicable before verse 12 is fulfilled...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    This is interesting, yet I don't see how it might explain the following? As to this time, times, and the dividing of time, it is connected with the number 1260. Where the math then works out like such. time + times + the dividing of time = 1260 days. 360 days(time) + 720 days(2 times time) +...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    Mainly addressing Amils here, but no one in particular. It's a bit lengthy, though. Here's where I am at concerning verses 16-19 in particular. Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to...
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    Matthew 24

    Of course there is a 2000 year gap between Luke 21:20 and Luke 21:27 if the former is involving 70 AD and the latter is involving His 2nd coming in the end of this age. Except you argue that the former is not involving 70 AD. But if it is, like some of us non Preterists tend to think, and that...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I for sure don't take it to mean the earth no longer exists, thus a brand new one needs to replace it. Yet, at the same time, obviously, real literal changes are going to be made to the earth and it's atmosphere that man has been polluting with chemicals via smog pollution and all of those...