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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I don't see that being a valid option based on what the following says. Ezekiel 43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Speaking of strange doctrines, meaning if Amil is in mind here. and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded(Revelation 20:4)---they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years(Revelation 20:6). It can't get any stranger than this unless one is maybe...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    If anyone dies during the Premil millennium it won't be believers, that's for certain. In spite of what you brought up says, Revelation 20 indicates no one dies again until after the millennium. Meaning when they are devoured by fire from God out of heaven. As to Isaiah 65:20, I'm not certain...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Apparently then, you have Jesus being in 3 different places at the same time. His body being in the earth, His soul being in the heart of the earth, and His spirit being in heaven. Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    How could a believer possibly die during the millennium if believers put on bodily immortality prior to it or at the beginning of it? IOW, since when can immortal beings die?
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I don't have a clue what this means, though. What are you meaning by a spiritual body, and why would a spiritual body be sleeping until this event occurred? You don't think those graves contained literal bodies and that their literal bodies walked out of those graves? But not as skeleton bones...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I don't necessarily disagree with you here. I think the issue is discerning which texts are involving the here and now in the manner you submitted, and which texts are involving being literally bodily resurrected at some point. If we consider the first resurrection per Revelation 20, for...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Matthew 27:52-53 (KJV) And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. How anyone can read this part---and many bodies of the saints which slept arose---and take...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    IMO, one is not rightly dividing the Word of God by cherry picking passages that appear to be supporting their position while ignoring passages that appear to be disproving their position. For example. Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Let's get on the same page here since I'm pretty certain you will see we are pretty much in agreement about this. Which comes first? The bodily resurrection or the 2nd death? The former, obviously. Obviously then, in order to experience the 2nd death one has to be bodily resurrected first. It...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I'm not certain what you are meaning by this? All I know is, that everlasting life is not achievable in this present age. Meaning in the literal sense. No one can remotely live forever in an age that is not everlasting to begin with. By believing now on Christ, this is what seals everlasting...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    The fact believers die, regardless, what should this be telling us then? That Jesus is a liar, that He oftentimes contradicts Himself? Or should it be telling us that since there is a first death and a 2nd death, where the latter there is no resurrecting from, thus are dead forever, therefore...
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    Why Satan Will Be the Final Antichrist

    If satan and the beast are literally one and the same, it is then obviously nonsensical, thus ludicrous, to take Revelation 20 to be meaning chronologically after Revelation 19. Why? Because Revelation 19 records that the beast is cast into the LOF when Christ returns. And if the beast is satan...
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    How long O Lord

    The only thing I can think of off hand, since I strongly feel Matthew 19:28 will be involving events post His return, that being priests of God and Christ during the thousand years might be connected to this in some way. The way I'm reasoning this in general, being priests in this manner only...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    When I read something such as Revelation 20:9, it reminds me of what happened per what is recorded in Genesis 19, for instance. Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; I absolutely take this in the literal sense and then...
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    How long O Lord

    Let's not forget, Revelation 13 involves 2 beasts, not just one beast, and that one of the beasts has a deadly wound that is healed. Obviously, none of this would already be so when mankind initially fell. There was no false prophet back then doing what Revelation 13 records that he does. The...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    When I initially saw this post the other day, I set out to watch them both. The first one I pretty much watched all the way through except for the last minute or two. The 2nd one I tried to watch all the through but got bored with it in about 5 minutes into it. Thus never watched it all the way...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    My thinking on some of this in general is basically the following. Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. The text indicates that the fire...
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    How long O Lord

    It's not my Premil mind allegedly preventing me from understanding the first resurrection how Amils are insisting it needs to be understood. It is the following that is mainly preventing me from accepting the Amil interpretation of the first resurrection. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he...
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    How long O Lord

    Roger, while I'm pondering what you submitted here before I attempt to address it, I submit the following for now. Unless Amil believes that satan and the beast are one and the same, why does Amil think the beast is in the pit? To prevent it from doing what during the thousand years? It can't be...