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That's usually what happens when someone has truth on their side but that the other person is unwilling to accept it. They end up getting frustrated with the person with truth on their side. lol I think the main barrier between you and me at the time was that I just couldn't get on board with...

Another possibility if we were to factor Amil in here. Those after the thousand years that are deceived by satan are meaning the ones saved towards the end of the thousand years, thus are the ones that fall away after the thousand years. That's the only way I can see Amil making any sense. But...

Actually it is both, as the following makes clear. 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and...

Maybe I missed reading that post since I don't recall you asking this. But to answer it now, of course that's what I believe since that is what the book of Revelation has me believing, that this is relevant, meaning this 42 month reign of the beast, only in the final days of this age...

As to that, how you have been understanding that is how I also have basically been understanding that. But lately I'm thinking there might be another way to understand that, thus it it is not meaning what you and I have been taking it to mean. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the...

Roger, you're missing the point. How can there be any of these alleged inconsistencies in Premil when the texts involved appear to be supporting Premil not Amil? For example, something I have brought up a million times already---and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image...

Here I am with my questions again, but how can I remotely keep questions out of the discussion when questions need to be asked in order to determine how something should be understood? BTW, whether you realize it or not, but by me asking these quetions it shows how it can fit with Premil since...

Let's focus on this for now. In Daniel 7 it involves the beast being slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. Where do you see Revelation 5:10-12 involving any of that? How can these accounts be involving the same events when Revelation 5:10-12 is apparently meaning at the...

What is written where? Per the verse you submitted? Or are you meaning something else?

Can you point out which posts in particular you pointed out these inconsistencies so that I can look at them again and try and go from there?

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble...

Your idea of most reasonable and my idea of most reasonable must be miles apart since I see nothing reasonable about any of these options including option 3 if one is trying to apply these things to something it can't possibly fit to begin with, meaning Daniel 12:1 in this case.

Here's a tense for you to explain. which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands What events explain how and when this martyrdom above happened if not what Revelation 13, for one, records? As to that chapter...

Since I agree with what I quoted per your post above, it's simple then. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped...

So now, the fact John doesn't mention the first resurrection in verse 4, nothing in verse 4 is pertaining to the first resurrection? Is that what you are saying? Does this then mean you agree the first resurrection is the bodily resurrection of the saints after all? That's what it appears to me...

Why wouldn't they live again in a body of flesh after having been dead? If they don't ever do that how can they live forever in the new Jerusalem? Keeping in mind, if they already began living again as of the first resurrection, they don't need to live yet again in the future, as in 2...

That appears to be contradicting what I'm arguing if I'm arguing Premil. If I was arguing Amil instead, it wouldn't be contradicting Daniel 12:2 in that case, yet it would be contradicting Revelation 20 since Amils don't take the first resurrection to be meaning the bodily resurrection of the...

Yet, it is not referring to the first resurrection pertaining to Revelation 20, though. As if it makes sense, that the most imprtant resurrection event, other than Christ's, meaning the bodily resurrection of the saints, that John is not even going to mention that resurrection event in...

I don't know if 'type' is the right word or not to describe the following, but in my mind, if we make the first resurrection a type of resurrection, a resurrection of the just, in this case, it doesn't matter how many resurrection events there are involving the just, the fact all these events...

As to be being beheaded, my thinking on this, right or wrong, I tend to think it is not literally meaning that in every case. What would a beheading accomplish? Wouldn't it accomplish silencing someone? And if a saint is martyred by other means rather than being literally beheaded, isn't the...