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31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. In Matthew 24:31, it is not talking about literal heaven where God's throne is. But where the earth's atmosphere (heaven) meets...

The sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven. That will cause a reaction by the kings of the earth to gather their armies at Armageddon for 45 days to prepare to make war on Jesus. The gathering of the armies at Armageddon is in Revelation 16:14-16. The 45 days is the interval between the...

The rapture involves the translation of the living in Christ bodies into eternal life everlasting bodies. The angels can't do that. The rapture/resurrection event is an action directly by Christ Himself.

Matthew 24:29-30a is the sixth seal event, the sign of the Son of man in heaven. 45 days later.... Matthew 24:30b takes place as Jesus descends down to earth in Revelation 19:11-21. Then in Matthew 24:31, Jesus sends out his angels to gather the Jews from the nations to the land of Israel...

In terms of years, how long are you claiming the time/times/half time of Daniel 12:7 is ? Jay, no-one here agrees with the many misinterpretations that you have come up with. Posters who disagree with the timeline charts I present - are resentful because my charts expose the error of their...

I meant to type Mark 13:27 is the same as Matthew 24:31. I made a typo. I went back and edited my post. It does not say in 1Thessalonians 4:14-18 anything about Jesus sending His angels to gather anyone. It is not in the text that Jesus will do so for the rapture/resurrection event...

Mark 13:27 is the same as Matthew 24:31. It is not the rapture/resurrection event of 1Thessalonians4:15-18. In the rapture/resurrection event, Jesus does not send His angels to gather anyone. Jesus Himself resurrects the dead in Christ and changes the living in Christ.

My post #386 did not contain any charts. You did not say when the time, times, half time left to Satan after he is cast down earth - took place in your view. The expression time/times/half time is three and a half years long roughly. The term is found in two other places in the bible...

David, Matthew 24:31 is not referring to the rapture. That verse is referring to the gathering of the Jews from the nations of the world to the land of Israel. It is a promise that God made to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 30:1-6. Compare verse 4 to Matthew 24:31. Deuteronomy 30...

Then what are you claiming is the trumpet associated with the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12, if not the 7th trumpet ? You are not taking into account of when the great tribulation begins and what triggers it. The 7 vials of God's wrath take place during the great...

No. The third woe to the inabiters of the earth is Satan cast down to earth having great wrath. Satan when he is cast out of (the second) heaven down to earth, leaves him with just a times, times, half time left. roughly three and a half years, something less than 1260 days. Before then, the...

No, you did not say when the time/times/half time is, or even how long it is. The woman in Revelation 12 is not the church, but Israel and her seed. The expression time/times/half time is three and a half years long roughly. The term is found in two other places in the bible, Daniel 7:25...

Ezekiel 28:16-19 is not going to happen ? And Revelation 12:12 states that Satan will be cast down to earth. When cast down to earth, he attempts to destroy the woman for a time/times/half time. When does that time/times/half time take place ?

Have you heard me say anything like that about other posters that I may disagree with ? Then maybe you should learn. And make some timeline charts that convey your Amil beliefs. Such as the time/times/half time that Satan will have left, once cast down to earth.

You did not answer the question. The time/times/half time that Satan will have left when he is cast down to earth, where does that time/times/haft time fit relative to Jesus's return ?

David, could you post one of the timeline charts that you have made ?

So, now you have to go into Amil name calling mode ? ....more name calling. btw, I use Corel Paintshop Pro to make my time line charts and illustrations. You have no graphics skills ?

You are ignoring the time/times/half time that Satan will have left when he is cast down to earth, when the 7th angels sounds his trumpet. Where does that time/times/haft time fit relative to Jesus's return ?

You have already wasted years of your life believing in the Amil position. 30 seconds of your time to look at my timeline chart showing the seventh sounding his trumpet and the bema seat of Christ and the Revelation 11:18 reference would not be that much.

No, the bema seat of Christ is only for believers. (btw, "bema" is a word not in the kjv bible. Bema is a Greek word meaning a raised platform where a judge sat to award prizes to victors in athletic contests) 2Corinthians5: 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from...