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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Right, well, has and still is. Grace and peace to you, William Wallace (Braveheart reference)... :)
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Many say that, yes. :) Much of Daniel, especially the latter half of Daniel, is of the apocalyptic literature genre, which is intensely metaphorical and filled with symbolism. This doesn't make it less literal, per se, but not woodenly so. Grace and peace to you, 777.
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I'm not saying it's particularly antiquated in this specific passage, RD, but overall, it is, and in several passages particularly so. Again, it's not wrong, it's just harder for us because here we are many centuries later, and the English language has... evolved (although that's kind of a "bad...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Well I would exhort you this first... Put down your KJV and start reading the ESV (or maybe the NASB or NIV) instead. Not that the KJV is heretical or even says anything different, but because of the antiquated language can be misleading. Okay, back to our regularly scheduled programming...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Not one made of stones (or wood, or bricks, or any other literal building material), no. And the one that will be built is being built now. :) "Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says, ‘Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool. What kind of...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    You know, Jesus was speaking of Himself when He spoke of the Temple (John 2:19). Is Donald John Trump... Jesus? And Paul tells us that all we in Christ are the Temple that God is building now (Ephesians 2:19-22), built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets with Jesus Himself as...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Others of particular interest: Chapter X Of Effectual Calling Chapter XIV Of Saving Faith Chapter XV Of Repentance unto Life Chapter XVI Of Good Works Chapter XVII Of the Perseverance of the Saints Just a magnificent document. Not the Bible, of course, but based on it through and through...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    One thing... :) This from the Westminster Confession of Faith (with Scripture references): Chapter IX Of Free Will I. God has endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that is neither forced, nor, by any absolute necessity of nature, determined good, or evil. 204 204 MAT 17:12 But...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    This has gone far enough, Spiritual Israelite. Now we are just circling back over (and over and over) the same things. Grace and peace to you.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    And you've given examples where you think you've shown that it doesn't, it never does. Sure. We disagree. Continuing on... This is a mischaracterization of what I have said. All I have said is that only the few will ~ of their own free will and accord ~ accept it. You apparently see no...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    ON FREE WILL "You are denying that! Either that or you don't even know what free will is." <eyroll> I get that it seems that way to you, but no... "You don't believe that all people are free to make the choice to either accept or reject Christ with each choice being a viable option for all...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    GOD'S CALL, FAITH, AND SALVATION "Faith and works are not the same no matter how hard you try to make that so." I'm... not trying to do that at all, Spiritual Israelite. As I've said, our good works are the outward evidence of the faith we have. "Salvation occurs by grace through faith and...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Breaking this up to make it more manageable... :) FALLING AWAY "You are not accepting what it actually says." And I think the exact same of you, Spiritual Israelite. "That is a different context than Hebrews 3 and 6." It's not; it's very much the same. We disagree. "For someone to be among...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    The writer of Hebrews, in Hebrews 3 and 6, is assuming that who he is writing to are brothers and sisters in Christ, just as a preacher today assumes he is preaching to brothers and sisters in Christ. But he knows ~ or should, anyway ~ that some who hear his letter read, even though in the...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    I don't know all about you, for sure, marks, but that was never in view. It's been about the stream of eschatological thought you are in, and I do know it, both because of what you've said and, as I said, because I was once in at least pretty much that same stream. Goodness gracious. Grace...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    LOL! You're saying that the opposite of what I'm saying of my own experience is true, that what I thought is not really what I thought. To brand that as mistakenness... that's just not possible, marks, The only possibility is that you're saying either that I'm lying to you or lying to...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    I did. Of course not; you probably ignored it. :) It seems so, yes. It's not about me. Well, you don't mean it in this way, but there's a much greater context to that, and that's... kinda what I'm saying. Hopefully you will at some point, but if not, so be it. LOL! Sure. Well, yes it...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    <Sigh> Your question here, marks, underscores tenfold the point I am making to you. Some just refuse to see and/or accept the greater alongside the lesser with regard to Scripture. Such a tragedy; it's such a great theme running throughout God's inerrant, infallible Word. But, some come to...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    I just said I agree; need I do it again? Again, no, I do not think it's untrue. But you're avoiding my point in saying what I said, which is... understandable. :) I once did; I used to. Which is what I said. Why do you keep changing what I said? Putting words in my mouth? I seem to...
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    Luke 21:36 is Not a Rapture Passage

    Right, well, that's good, but one can't be bound by that, because then he/she falls into the error that the Jews of that day did, only seeing an immediate context and therefore missing their Messiah. We must also see it in the context that Paul did in Romans 2, Romans 9-11, and Ephesians 2, and...