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  1. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Well, maybe what you apparently think the millennium to be, but that's a good thing. :) But as Jesus says in John 5:28-29, "Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear His voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and...
  2. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    A good start... LOL! Don't know; none of us does. Is it closer, even much closer, to filling the earth than it was? Well, sure. God is bringing it to completion, though, that much we can say with absolute confidence. And that's really the main point of Revelation, actually. Jesus wins...
  3. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    And when and/or where did I claim that it (Christ's kingdom filling the earth) is already true, Timtofly? Ugh. No, the mountain is growing... :) Nope. I'm... really not sure what to make of your thoughts about "Amils". :) Well that's quite opposite what Jesus said on several occasions...
  4. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Agreed, but disagreed regarding who here is having the "hard time" with it... :) Right; sin is very pervasive. I see the problem here; a very different understanding of what it means for Satan to deceive the nations. It doesn't really have anything to do with nations going to war against one...
  5. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Another non sequitur. There is no "opposition"... this is a dichotomy where there is none, manufactured, as it were. So it goes... The trouble is that these things mean nothing to you. Which speaks volumes... no hard quote necessary. This wasn't addressed to me, but, hey ~ as if I didn't...
  6. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    But I can and have, and I am by no means alone. No, there is no "hard quote" ~ exact words ~ in the Bible that says ~ say ~ "Jesus is God," and no hard quote ~ again, exact verbiage ~ from Jesus Himself saying "I am God." But the exact words needn't be said to achieve the purpose, the effect...
  7. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Well, that's too bad, I guess, but I understand. :) I appreciate your thoughts, NoPre-Trib, and respect you greatly for considering such things. I don't mean to direct this at you, really, but like I have said, John's Revelation gives people a hard time, particularly the 20th chapter, but it...
  8. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Spiritually dead in their sin, at enmity with God, but they did not die physically. That's... kinda why we're all here having this discussion, Timtofly. LOL! A sinful nature, yes. And we all inherit that from birth. We are in need being justified and redeemed, which requires us being born...
  9. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well, simple, sure. Very "simple." Well, convoluted, really. :) I'm holding to Scripture, yes, to God's Word. You think you are, too. We can leave it at that. Grace and peace to you.
  10. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    ...By... complicating it? LOL! Grace and peace to you, Earburner.
  11. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well, yes, think the same way as Christ ~ Paul exhorts us to "have this mind among ourselves" ~ which is to be of the mind that he has just described, to "do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than ourselves, to look not only to our own...
  12. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    He did not assign the name of God to himself, Rich. Jesus, however, did. So, no, to your quite ridiculous question here. What endless, egregious misrepresentations of what Trinitarians grasp! Yes, I've forgotten ~ dismissed, really ~ your misrepresentations, because they were (and still...
  13. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Satan is bound and sealed, meaning that his power to influence the nations is suppressed, which is exactly the distinction John makes in Revelation 20. Premillennialists and some postmillennialists associate this event with the advent of an extraordinary future era of peace and prosperity...
  14. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    LOL! Well, yes, but in the death that he (and Eve) died on the very day they partook of the forbidden tree, just as God told Adam he would in Genesis 2:17. So alive in the body, but dead spiritually. This is what it means to be in Adam. Of course not, but that's a non sequitur. We (if we...
  15. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Jesus clearly refers to the Holy Spirit as another Person/Helper aside from ~ but one with ~ the Father and Himself in John 14. The third person personal pronouns are unmistakeable... "He," "Him," "Who," etc... at the very least the Holy Spirit is Someone distinct from Jesus Himself. Yes, the...
  16. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Well, yes it is. It's all through Scripture, not just Revelation 20. Disagree, of course... :) The millennium of Revelation 20:3 is the current Gospel age, at the beginning of which the angel came down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain... Christ...
  17. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Not specifically, no, but it is surely about God bringing his plan of redemption of His elect to completion, which involves him bringing the fullness of them into His Israel, and culminates in the return of Christ, the final Judgment, and the consummation of the Kingdom. It's really quite...
  18. PinSeeker

    What is the Difference in Faith and Beliefs?

    Well, fortunately, the Greek word that is translated to the English 'faith' is defined for us by God Himself in Hebrews 11:1 as, "the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." The question then is, where ~ or from whom ~ do we get this assurance and conviction? Do we...
  19. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Hmm... okay. No, many soft-pedal it, thereby not understanding it for what it truly is. All you said was, "The church age started in the OT, with a newer church age starting with the 12 disciples...long before Pentecost. Pentecost was when the NT church GREW a lot in a short time, not the...
  20. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well, you replied to me, here, but I'm not Rich... :) Yes, the gifts of the Spirit include specific things like knowledge, wisdom, mercy, teaching... specific things that the Spirit has purposely gifted us with so that we are then able to bless other people by (and they us) in the ways...