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  1. PinSeeker

    A new one from OSAS: All the world is already forgiven

    Ah, you continue to paint with such a broad brush... No, as I've said before, there are good "OSAS teachers," and then there are bad "OSAS teachers." To explain: There is a sense in which we are saved (it is an assurance of God and thus a certainty), but also a sense in which we are being...
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    What is "OSAS"?

    Well, I think it's that they somehow think "OSAS" is some sort of license to continue sinning willfully... and to continue in disobedience... which is quite ridiculous connection to make. :) And, at the very least, they think the gifts and the calling of God are revocable, which is in direct...
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    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well, I don't think Scott is advocating any kind of replacement, so there's that right off the bat. If he is, then he's mistaken, but I don't think so. But sure, you are certainly forgiven for that... :) All in Christ are of God's Israel, yes, but this does not exclude ethnic Jews throughout...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    Right. Good. If you had been more explicit in what you said, all of this could have been avoided. Hmmm... not very convincing... LOL! Goodness gracious. Grace and peace to you.
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    LOL! Neither do I! Dispensationalism is... well, it's just goofy. :) I... don't even know what this means... LOL! With the fact that you say there are not two resurrections. My goodness. If you agree with everything I just said in my previous point, then we're good. It's probably a good...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    Sure. The Kingdom has existed since His first advent. Don't you agree? Well, sure, but as I've said ~ and I think you agree ~ the millennium... and His millennial reign, will be over at His second advent. I mean, He will still be King ~ He will always be our King ~ but the millennium, the...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    I'm not arguing anything, M3n0r4h. I do recognize ~ and did even before I replied to you ~ that you and I are not far apart, and maybe fairly close together in our understandings of God's Word. Great. Yes, I thought I was understanding that. Yeah, good. Hm. Right, and what I'm saying is...
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    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    The only physical resurrection, yes. Right, and this is the first resurrection. Paul talks about it in Ephesians 2, Peter talks about it in 1 Peter 1, and this is what John "sees" in his Revelation (20:4-6). If all the rest are physically raised prior to ~ or during, which is really the case...
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    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Yes and no... in this case ~ and many other cases throughout Scripture, especially in Moses and the Prophets, it means there is a lesser (immediate) and a greater (ultimate). Two other very appropriate examples are: ...what God promised Moses in the Mosaic Covenant, the Law, the Ten...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Okay, I'm good with that. But just to clarify in case what I said conveyed any misunderstanding... There will be a rapture, just not a removal of anyone from anything. God never promises ~ or indicates that He will ~ remove us from anything... ever. But God does promise, over and over again...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    For now... :) But the discussion here is concerning the final Judgment, as depicted in various ways in various places, namely Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 20:11-15, at the conclusion of which the wicked, who will not stand in the judgment (Psalm 1), depart from Jesus in obedience (Matthew...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Well... I just didn't put it in, because I thought what I had sufficient, and maybe somewhat because Revelation 20 presents... problems... for some folks... :) Preaching to the choir, here, RWB... :) I might quibble with this a bit. Those standing at the right hand of Christ will already have...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Well, some will not have died; there will be some who are still alive when Jesus returns. Disagree. Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Oh, we will... Each will be judged according to his/her works; Paul is very clear about that in Romans 2:6-8... "He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life; but for those who are...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Sure I do. LOL! I don't need you to teach me anything, Davy. If you want to have a conversation, then... I'm here. :) I deny your... "understanding" of that Scripture, yes, but certainly not the Scripture itself. I know it well, Davy. Yes, Christ is reigning from heaven now, and on the...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    LOL! Yes, I agree, actually. Those would be the self-deceived, or liars, or both. So, while I agree with what you say, here, it's really non sequitur. To that, though, I would humbly submit that neither is any kind of conversation worth having with anyone who falsely puts words in others'...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    It is, I agree. Sure. Absolutely. Here's where we disagree. Except for the "unsaved" part... Taking this whole passage into account, you seem to be of the understanding that there are individuals (a whole lot of them) standing on Jesus's right, but "nations" standing on His left. Am I...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Absolutely not. Ha! No, I'm sure Jesus was not lying, nor was He mistaken. :) ...was a misperception on your part. Well, it would have been, if what you thought I was saying was actually what I was saying... Grace and peace to you, Davy.
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    The "taking away" ~ sending away, of the ones on Jesus's left, the wicked ~ will occur at the final Judgment, as portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46, specifically verses 41-46. Too much is apparently being read into Matthew 24 by some posters here, or so it seems. In that specific passage, all we...
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    The gods of amil.

    All I was saying, Spiritual Israelite, was that you explicitly attributed bodily immortality to Jesus after His resurrection, which of course I agree with, but then you seemed to be attributing the exact same thing to Lazarus when Jesus called him out of the tomb. I understand now that you were...