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Clearly not; this clinging to misconceptions and mischaracterizations is my point. I have to say, it's... rather curious... that I've explained very clearly what the concepts ~ correctly understood ~ of sola Scripture and sola Fide are, and I have supported both concepts with several passages...

It's not. Historical things tend to get painted all sorts of weird colors depending on the source. We can go around and around on this, and have; I propose we stop. You've clearly misunderstood or ignored (or both) most everything I've said about the solas, and I'll add TULIP to that. You're...

LOL! But falsehoods regarding history are... :) The basis for the concepts most certainly are: 1. The Reformation concept of sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme ~ not "only," as it seems it is being falsely characterized ~ authority...

No, it's just a false narrative that "Luther, Calvin and the rest simply invented new doctrines and started their OWN versions of 'Church'”... Seems you have a false understanding of The Reformation principle of sola Scriptura. It has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme...

Well, since Calvin came centuries after Augustine, and Calvin himself said his writings were along intimately similar lines as Augustine, you're statement here holds no water. So you're saying that Augustine... recanted at least a good portion of what he had asserted earlier in his life? It...

The truth is sometimes annoying, I guess, or maybe inconvenient... Or at all. She doesn't offer herself as a mediator of any kind, and was not and is not a mediator of any kind. Well, I didn't say that, really. So what you say is... not applicable to me, at least... To be more explicit (as...

Well he couldn't have been, given that Calvin came centuries after Augustine. But the fact is that Augustine and Calvin were very, very close in their understandings of Scripture. Well, I would put it thusly, that Catholicism had its roots in Augustine's writings and teachings, as well as...

Perhaps. Grace and peace to you.

"WHY is it that I had to come here to put out all of the anti-Catholic fires?" LOL! What's the Biblical word (and where is it) that is translated to 'Catholic', BreadOfLife? And I certainly would not call myself anti-catholic... :) or anti-Jew... :) I don't know how this conversation has...

LOL! As if that's a bad thing... :) Although certainly it is in the eyes of many, but that's really of no real consequence. Calvinists and Catholics really aren't far apart theologically on the whole. The core beliefs of the Roman Catholic Church are found in the Nicene Creed, which dates to...

I don't think I said "proof that the current age nearing its conclusion," but only that "I think ~ don't know this to be true" (I was sure to enter that little qualifier) "that will be an indicator that the fullness of the Gentiles has been brought in." That can't be proven, and you may or may...

Agreed on this, as I have said many times... Well, I don't disagree, but again ~ and again and again... I've lost count now... :) ~ we "cooperate" because of His working in us by His Spirit. But I think the way in which you are saying this and suppose it to be is... very Arminian... :) He...

When Jesus, in Matthew 16:18, says, "on this rock," He is referring not to Peter, but Peter's confession that Jesus is "...the Christ, the Son of the living God," in Matthew 16:16. That confession, which is a matter of the heart, is what His Church ~ which is His people, those who believe in...

RWB, I have no problem with the way you are seeing that... and am not saying you're incorrect. Verbatim, Paul says, "a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in." From that, it seems to me that the fullness of the Gentiles will come in, and yes, at...

I would say, BreadOfLife, that my understandings of Scripture line up very closely to John Calvin's, so yes. And you, my friend, are very Arminian in yours. But not all Catholics are... Well, again, yes, the aggregate number of professing believers is surely in decline; I never denied that...

I agree to this extent, that we can know who is and is not (believers and unbelievers, respectively) in His Church by their fruits (good ~ or the absence of good ~ or bad). And (I'm being a little facetious here, but it is true) we can know who are members of the tangible Catholic Church...

Well I don't "like it," that we'll agree on... :) But that it's actually a historical fact, no... :) Actually, we're talking about two different things, really. Which ~ and by this I'm speaking to something much bigger than you and me ~ is not a new phenomenon. :) But, speaking to you in...

The Apocrypha is not called the Apocrypha for disparaging reasons; lots of things are called “apocryphal.” but that merely means of dubious authenticity ~ without the historical evidence to back up its claim to be genuine. With regard to the Apocrypha itself, none of the books of the Apocrypha...

Yes, I mean something quite different than you by Christ Jesus's Church. I think that was established from the outset. Jesus Christ's Church consists of God's elect, those who have been called by the Lord and born again of the Spirit and are therefore in Christ. We cannot know exactly who...

You apparently missed the point. Badly. :) One of the things (among others) I was referring to, Illuminator, was the statement that "the Catholic Church... is the Original Tree from Which the Protestant denominations were born." I don't mean to disparage, but that assertion is very much...