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That's easy to say now, but you were not clear in not attributing that "bodily immortality" to Lazarus. Thus, the reasonable misunderstanding on my part. Okay, we disagree on that, too, and yes, obviously you will not be convinced otherwise. I can't really be concerned about either, and am...

Absolutely. The land promised to Abraham was but a foreshadowing of the true, greater Promised Land. Ah, the symbolism in John's Revelation goes far. I would disagree with this, and submit that the "sea" was where John "saw the beast rising up out of" (Revelation 13:1), so, symbolically, it...

AlwaysOnAJourney, I would submit to you that the fact that you are down and obviously very worried about whether you are a Christian or not should actually be very encouraging to you. You are struggling with assurance of your faith, and because you are worried about it, that should actually be...

Yes. Because that's what you seemed to be saying. I asked that in response to this statement of yours: "The first to rise physically/bodily from the dead unto bodily immortality, to be more exact. Obviously, there were others, like Lazarus, who had been physically/bodily resurrected from the...

LOL! Well, yes, but as such, it is one general resurrection inclusive of the two groups ~ thus my earlier analogy of the first half and the second half making up one college basketball game... :) ~ "seen" by John in Revelation 20:11-13. So, in a way (I guess), you could say there are three...

Not the case. To your point ~ or at least one of them; yes, I have read everything you have written to me, even carefully... :) ~ my point is that the exact same word does not have to be used for it to be the same thing. There is, for sure, a difference between the spiritual and the physical...

Our justification by God, our being declared righteous in Christ, happened for each of us Christians when we were brought from death in sin to life in Christ ~ resurrected spiritually ~ and ensures that we will stand in the final judgment (as opposed to the unrighteous; "the wicked will not...

Right, this is the problem. It is a spiritual resurrection ~ anastasis ~ which is necessary to bring us from death in sin to life in Christ. It is what it is. We are resurrected in spirit. Yes. Actually, I thought you said that at some point. Or maybe it was EWQ, bless his heart... :)...

Hmmm, let's see here... Yes they were... :) No, in their whole being, they were in uncorrupted spiritual union with God, alive to Him. Before the Fall of Genesis 3. Died in spirit; and thus this spiritual union with God was broken. Spiritual condition... dead in their sin, at enmity with...

"Except all the saved were judged long before that final resurrection and judgment" They were justified by God (declared/made righteous before God) and thus saved ~ but not judged ~ before the final resurrection and judgment. All will be judged at the final Judgment, as clearly seen in Matthew...

Cool. So we agree. Except for the "can be looked at" thing; I would much rather that be "is." :) Because it is. :) I don't think Christ's resurrection is in view in Revelation 20, SI. See my post above to Timtofly. Well... it's not reason to get sideways at all, no. Okay, well, this is...

Sure He is, absolutely. But what you say here is actually a contradiction of your statement that God's foreknowledge is His knowing it all before it happens. What you're doing with the latter is, you're actually ~ presumably inadvertently ~ putting God inside time. And like I said regarding...

LOL! Wow... Eventually, he did, yes, but he was still physically living directly after he (and Eve) partook of the forbidden fruit and ostensibly for a good period of time after that, considering, among other things, that he knew Eve thus and had some kiddos... :) But he did die that very...

Right, because they are, the same general event, but believers first, as described vividly in Matthew 25:31-46, and generally in John 5:28-29. In the latter, Jesus Himself said, "Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear His voice and come out, those...

The verb "know/knew" in both the OT Hebrew and the NT Greek, when used in the context you're speaking of here, is virtually synonymous with "love/loved." Adam "knew Eve," as we read in Genesis 4, which is to say he... well, loved her. It has to do with a purposeful action towards, and a...

I... don't really care what the Catholicism encyclopedia says. :) Grace and peace to you.

Absolutely not... Well, to us, in our temporal view, sure. In your opinion; yeah, I get you loud and clear, over and over and over. Think what you will; you're certainly your own person. But that seemed to be what you were propagating. Yes, I hope not. :) Any "Amill" worth his or her...

It is true. Not "in a sense." It is true. It's just not what a lot of folks would picture when they picture a resurrection. There will be that kind of physical resurrection, but there is a real resurrection of the spirit that happens in the life of the Christian, before which they are not a...

Sure, but there is a real resurrection going on there for every new believer. We are made alive, even having been dead in our sin (Ephesians 2 (and other Pauline quotes), 1 Peter 1). Cool. Grace and peace to you.

You're doing, Truth7t7, exactly what EWQ is doing ~ not understanding it correctly because you're applying a context to it that is different from what it is. As I said to EWQ, I say to you: we have to remember that John quotes Jesus in his vision as saying, "Come up here, and I will show you...