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See, this was my point, EWQ ~ you seem to be reading Revelation 20 at the exclusion of any other passage of Scripture. And in addition to that, you will certainly disagree and possibly take offense to this, but you're not understanding it correctly because you're applying a context to it that...

Then maybe you should make an effort to be more clear in what you do post. And I clearly disagree, based on other passages of Scripture. God is His own arbiter. But John's Revelation is apocalyptic in genre; it cannot be read like a Dick and Jane first grade primer. Anyone can be blessed by...

I disagree. Maybe you can tell me why you think that. I have my suspicions, but I'll let you answer that. Well, it's a one-time occurrence for individuals; do you not understand me to be saying that? If you do, then great, and I redirect you again to what I asked you immediately above ~ to...

Well, right, because it's not. :) You think it is. Fine; we can agree to disagree. Well, the second is different in nature than the first (incidentally much like the second death is different in nature than the first). I understand well that you think not. Again, fine; we can agree to...

Of course there is... well, at least for those who physically die before Jesus's return, for the ones not still alive at His return. For those who physically die before Christ returns, they will certainly be physically resurrected. Those who are still alive at the time of Christ's return will...

You disagree. I have no problem with that. Okay, I'm going to reply, and certainly you can do with this what you want, but I would really encourage you to just thoughtfully and prayerfully consider it... Well, I agree that it is the first of two in Revelation 20... Again: I say ~ and I am...

Yes, Paul wrote the same things over and over again in different ways, different letters, but the same in substance. Grace and peace to you, SI.

Okay. :) Ah, well, okay, we disagree. :) The first resurrection is spiritual, in which we are raised from death in sin ~ we were formerly dead in our trespasses (Ephesians 2:5) ~ to life in the spirit by and of the Holy Spirit ~ made alive together with Christ and raised up with him...

I really don't know, EWQ. Was I unclear in what I said? I did say that I'm not sure whether you were agreeing or disagreeing with what I said in post #191. I think ~ I think ~ you're seeing a difference where there's not one. But you can speak for yourself; far be it from me to put words in...

Most people who say the Bible ~ Jesus, actually ~ says "Christians are not supposed to judge" (specifically in Matthew 7:1) are inadvertently using that in a way something along the lines of "Christians are not supposed to think," which is quite ridiculous. The proper directive is that...

The dichotomy that some folks are wont to make from what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:44 ~ "sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body... (t)here is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body" is not one of mere substance. The substance, the physicality of the body in both the...

Both, actually. :) You sound like George Lucas... :) Jack's posts above are a sampling of relevant Scripture passages that should be more than enough to refute what you say here. Grace and peace to you.

You know, thanks, EWQ, but I'm really not sure what to make of your post... whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. I'm not really concerned about it, but, yeah, I'm not sure. Grace and peace to you.

The Holy Spirit was present also...

I'm pretty sure you're right about that... :) Grace and peace to you.

Here is what I believe to be the first resurrection: "But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ ~ by grace you have been saved ~ and raised us up with Him and seated us with Him in...

That's... not a bad thing. :) I mean hey, the conversation is worth having, and even multiple times, but the problem is that sooner or later (usually sooner), it becomes personal, and that's not good. I think we can all agree that Jesus wins, and that He will return, and we will reign with...

Well, post-millennialism posits that Jesus will return after a 1000-year "golden age of Christian prosperity and dominance," after Christians (not Christ Himself) have established the kingdom on this earth. This is directly opposite the pre-millennial view, which holds to Jesus returning...

Wow.

What was that you were saying about ad hominem again? I forget... But to what you say here, you're hearing what I say and what I quote from reformed sources about reformed things, and you're refuting all that with what your non-reformed sources say those reformed things really are. Do you...