Corlove13
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Get back to work ...lol......for you both lose something.... . . no real content to respond to . . . Vanity . . . emptiness . . .
not what the plain reading of it
Yup, we are "sealed", and so we are warned not to grieve the Spirit--Samson grieved the Spirit and the Spirit left him, just as it is said "and whoever disregards this disregards not man but God Who gives His Spirit". Why even mention that? Because God can withhold His Spirit from those who'd already received the Spirit. If the seal is tampered with the contents are suspect.Everybody knows that, lol! What you can't accept is it doesn't have to mean what Osas says it has to mean, and what Osas says it can only mean.
One can see it that way.....Yup, we are "sealed", and so we are warned not to grieve the Spirit--Samson grieved the Spirit and the Spirit left him, just as it is said "and whoever disregards this disregards not man but God Who gives His Spirit". Why even mention that? Because God can withhold His Spirit from those who'd already received the Spirit. If the seal is tampered with the contents are suspect.
Don't twist God's Words around. It doesn't say "until" it says "for"--yes that's what the seal is for, so don't grieve the Spirit or else.One can see it that way.....
But the sealing is said to be until the Day of redemption.
King James English's "unto" doesn't mean "until" ; it means "for". Look at all the more contemporary versions.Ephesians 4:30 KJV
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Not just until, but the Holy Spirit seals us for the purpose of keeping under seal in order to safely deliver us to our redemption.
Much love!
Yes I did write that wrong.....but no one is trying to twist anything...intentionally....King James English's "unto" doesn't mean "until" ; it means "for". Look at all the more contemporary versions.
All right.Yes I did write that wrong.....but no one is trying to twist anything...intentionally....
Or?And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation) – when you believed in Christ – you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit, who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of his glory.
Net.bible.org
The "until" has to do with the "down-payment", and then the redemption is the fulfillment, not "you can't lose salvation because the seal will last until the day of redemption".And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation) – when you believed in Christ – you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit, who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of his glory.
Net.bible.org
That's what I mean, sorry if I wasn't clear!King James English's "unto" doesn't mean "until" ; it means "for". Look at all the more contemporary versions.
notes:King James English's "unto" doesn't mean "until" ; it means "for". Look at all the more contemporary versions.
You're not going to undo God's seal.The "until" has to do with the "down-payment", and then the redemption is the fulfillment, not "you can't lose salvation because the seal will last until the day of redemption".
Yes and we see that it is consistently interpreted as" purpose" in the contemporary versions, and the word "unto" meant exactly that.notes:
"a primary preposition; to or into (indicating the point reached or
entered), of place, time, or (figuratively) purpose "net.bible.org
"eis" 1519....notes:
"a primary preposition; to or into (indicating the point reached or
entered), of place, time, or (figuratively) purpose "net.bible.org
The Jews were also "redeemed", and "children of God" and then because of sin they became "no longer His Children" Dt 32:5, Ho 1:9,10. We are literally warned the same thing that happened to them can happen to us in 1 Co 10.You're not going to undo God's seal.
If you are redeemed, He owns you.
Much love!
However you wish to take it....I have no agenda here but to learn....but I guess they can be as right as anyone else...Yes and we see that it is consistently interpreted as" purpose" in the contemporary versions, and the word "unto" meant exactly that.