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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    You're taking these verses out of context, and that's not cool. First of all, you say that Paul says that "marriage is honorable IN ALL..." But that's not how the entire passage reads. Hebrews 13:4 says, "Let marriage be honored by all AND THE MARRIAGE BED BE KEPT UNDEFILED, FOR GOD WILL...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    Yes! I've told other people (a.k.a., atheists, LOL!) something similar. There are really only a few Commandments for us to remember. Love God. Love others. Of course, HOW we show God we love Him, and HOW we show others we love them is a different story! The Golden Rule is a GREAT way to...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    Interesting. To me, the spirit is more lenient and forgiving. It's the letter that's more exacting. I see the spirit of the law in operation when Jesus and his Apostles were walking through the field of wheat on the Sabbath. They were accused of breaking the Sabbath by "working", when they...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    Interesting. To me, the spirit is more lenient and forgiving. It's the letter that's more exacting. I see the spirit of the law in operation when Jesus and his Apostles were walking through the field of wheat on the Sabbath. They were accused of breaking the Sabbath by "working", when they...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    Exactly. Not only that, but some people don't even read the letter correctly. Just as an example, some people might read that last sentence as, "some people don't even read the letter..." and leave off the "correctly" part...which of course changes the whole meaning of the sentence. A...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    The difference to me, between the letter and the spirit, is that the letter is more about punishment...whereas, the spirit is more about mercy. Make sense?
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    First of all, thank you for the compliments! And...onward! I agree with you, as to kings often being judges. Depending on where you lived in those times, the king was often judge, jury and ruler. PLUS, kingship was believed to be handed down from God Himself. What a combination... Exactly...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    And you would know that ALL Catholic priests are NOT celibate...as a FACT somehow? Look again, at your title in red. It says that SOME priests are celibate at times...not ALL priests are celibate at times. And unless that author has interviewed ALL Catholic priests, I don't put much weight...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    Plenty of Catholic priests are celibate...and have remained celibate from day one.
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    Jesus never said...or alluded to...that it was "rare", or that it should be "rare." Paul even cautioned about marriage because (I'm paraphrasing) those who are married will be more concerned about pleasing their spouse, instead of pleasing God. The point is, that not EVERYONE is called to...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    And JESUS said, that "not EVERYONE is capable of marriage. Some are born (incapable) so, some are made so by others , and some renounce marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 19:11-12) So, no. It doesn't apply to ALL men (or ALL women, for that matter).
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    Ummm...not sure how to do that. :oops: I posted the new thread in the same forum we're in now. Christian Theology... ...I think... Try this...maybe...? Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law | Christian Forums @ Christianity Board...?
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    Unfortunately, I see too many who try to defend it by saying, "God sed so!"... while having no idea what they're talking about. As if, mentioning God STOPS an arguement. I can't tell you how many faux-Christian men who have used the bible verses you've quoted...without knowing anything else...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    God DOES explain. And God has explained. He's explained a number of times. Perhaps you missed it.
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    What really makes me sad...and angry about this thread, is how many women have needlessly suffered because SOME husband has tried to physcally beat his wife...verbally abuse his wife...financially, sexually, emotionally abuse his wife...to try to force her into humble "submission." This is...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    YES! And the "explanation" should be MORE than, "Because the bible says that you're supposed to 'submit'!
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    Oh, trust me...I'm one of "those" Christians who has an on-going 'conversation' with God/Jesus every day! We laugh together...cry together...I get mad at Him...He 'turns my head around to see the error of my ways..." I apologize...confess...do the whole ''face/palm" thing...And I do it in the...
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    Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

    Hi Everyone, Since I'm feeling a bit..."inspired", I thought I would take it upon a suggestion from another thread, that perhaps a thread about this subject is due. I'm not trying to 'lead' this thread, but to put thoughts 'out there', that may make for a decent discussion. I was a paralegal...
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    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    People that me knew asked me, why I wanted a divorce. Them: How come you don't want to be with your husband anymore? Me: Because of religious differences. Them: What do you mean? Me: Because HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOD, OR THAT HE SHOULD BE GOD. I DIDN'T AGREE... (and YES, he DID say those...