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  1. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    As do I. Grace and peace to you.
  2. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Ah, so you are a universalist, is that right? That I would strongly disagree with, because the Word of God clearly says that universalism is not true. If you are a universalist, then how do you reconcile that with Romans 8-11, where this same Paul who wrote his letter to the Ephesians writes...
  3. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    I really don't think I'm disagreeing with God, Patrick, or you, for that matter. Your comment here is a bit of a head-scratcher to me. So, avoiding making any assumptions, though, what do you think it means to see the salvation of God? And in asking that, it brings to mind the following...
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    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    "Being found in Hell after you die, is proof that you are eternally separated from God, which is why you are there." Right, so to rephrase what is said above, it's 100% separation from God's grace ~ which some may think sounds not so bad... Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    Prayer for Covenant Presbyterian Church, Nashville, TN

    ... (of which I am a member) for God's comfort and peace in a time of great sorrow and mourning. Thanks to all of you.
  6. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Well, much agreed. Absolutely. But the problem here also is that there are differing human opinions regarding the lake of fire and what it really is and is not. Grace and peace to you, Enoch.
  7. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    A great, great post. Thank you, WMC. Yes, they will have seen and fully realize what they have rejected, and no longer have any hope of redemption through and life in and with Christ Jesus. And this will be a figurative torture to them, their worm that will not die. Grace and peace to you, WMC.
  8. PinSeeker

    Who Created or Made a Sin Nature?

    We disagree. Our free will ~ we do have one, of course :) ~ follows our nature, the state of our heart. You and I did not choose anything before the foundation of the world (as is the case with every other created being) because... we did not exist yet. :) Absolutely not. As John says...
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    Who Created or Made a Sin Nature?

    It is what it is. I'm not trying to soften anything, and there is no "cognitive dissonance" ~ perception is not reality. God creates people who, as descendants of Adam, inherit the sinful nature that he took on as a result of the fall, despite God's warning not to do so. Light cannot create...
  10. PinSeeker

    Real believers don't want to talk nor hear anything negative about sinning

    you mean you know how you've foisted on me multiple things I do not believe... Well, no longer condemned for my sin, but very much still subject to judgment and discipline. But that's just it, Robert, they're not my words. Paul says of himself at the end of Romans 7 that he has been delivered...
  11. PinSeeker

    Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?

    I guess I would call myself non-committal on this, because there would have to be certain caveats on it, which I think I conveyed. Yes, but even that can be done in sinful, self-glorifying ways, even if unintentional. Don't you think? To the picture, this really is neither here nor there ~...
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    Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?

    Hello, Farouk, an interesting question... Tattoos were forbidden by the Lord in the Old Testament ("You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD." ~ Leviticus 19:28), but that was not just woodenly about giving/getting tattoos but about why it was...
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    Real believers don't want to talk nor hear anything negative about sinning

    True repentance by the believer is actually initiated by God through the working of His Spirit in the believer ~ and in this life ongoing in nature, re-initiated and sustained in the believer by said Spirit, Who convicts us of our sin. As Paul says to the Church in Rome ~ and so to all of us ~...
  14. PinSeeker

    A Form of godliness

    Yes, the Words of the prophet Isaiah ring loud and clear: "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, so shall My Word be that goes out from My mouth; it shall...
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    A Form of godliness

    I did no such thing. I did say, Wrangler that His intention was always His intention, and He would have made no other choice. Goodness gracious. But by all means, stick to those (false) talking points, bro. You know, since you so choose... :) Ugh. Same ole, same ole. :) Round and...
  16. PinSeeker

    A Form of godliness

    It does. And the Son of Man. They are both titles of Christ, one referring to His deity and the other referring to His humanity. But the argument is that the "us" and "our" of John 1:26 refers to this "divine council." I mean, really, I agree in principle, but would assert that this "divine...
  17. PinSeeker

    A Form of godliness

    Nope. But now you're mixing the natural with the supernatural... or at least think I am, which I am not. We don't know, and cannot because we are not told in Scripture, what God did or when "before the foundation of the world" ~ puts the event outside of time itself. But we do know (from...
  18. PinSeeker

    A Form of godliness

    Great. Agree, totally. And in John 1:3, John says, without question, that "(a)ll things were made through Him (the Word, Whom John names in verse 17 as Jesus Christ), and without Him (again, the Word, Whom John names in verse 17 as Jesus Christ) was not any thing made that was made. That...
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    A Form of godliness

    No one "discounts history." No one, certainly not trinitarians. There are folks that do, yes, but we call them liberals. :) At any rate... there certainly have been many twists and turns (not necessarily "twisting" and "turning," as we have used those terms previously), so to speak. That's...
  20. PinSeeker

    A Form of godliness

    Sometimes yes, sometimes no. God moves in mysterious ways, and by different means from person to person. I mean, the same as in Christians are all born of the Holy Spirit, but through different means... at different times in life, under different circumstances, etc. If God has revealed...