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  1. Marty fox

    the great Jewish "distress"

    Yes this is why I said spiritually not physically he can’t deceive the Truly saved
  2. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    So I present you with clear scripture right out of Jesus mouth and you deny it and say I’m wrong? Here it is again Jesus tells us we’re they will be taken when He was asked in Luke 17:30-37 30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on...
  3. Marty fox

    the great Jewish "distress"

    I do think that satan is bound but not literally but spiritually I also believe that it happened at the cross so the examples you used wouldn’t apply
  4. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Humm Really? Luke 17:34-37 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” [36] 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there...
  5. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Daniel 11:31-32 31 “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will...
  6. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    The AOD Daniel spoke about was the foreign rule of Antiochus Epehanies who ended up desecrating the temple but this time there would be no Judas the hammer Maccabees to save them
  7. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    You have to read them in the shoes of the people it was written too. Matthew wrote to the Jews so they would of realized what the AOD was because of the events Daniel wrote about. Luke was written to gentiles who would of needed to know what the AOD was Read Matthew 24 Mark 13 and Luke 17 & 21...
  8. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    The before all this was talking about the Jewish persecution of the church which we read about in the book of Acts which did happen before 70AD
  9. Marty fox

    the great Jewish "distress"

    Just an FYI I didn't think that you put a curse on me you were warning me about what John said about changing Revelation but I didn't change anything I had a different interpretation deriving from other scriptures
  10. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Yes outside the city was still considered Jerusalem Revelation 11:8 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. Jesus was crucified outside the city Some were dead and some were not
  11. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Not quite Matthew 24:8 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
  12. Marty fox

    the great Jewish "distress"

    Here is a rule that I go by The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The...
  13. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Yes it was the Roman armies first gathering around Jerusalem see the same text below Matthew 24:15-21 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee...
  14. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Because they saw the beginning of all this as most of it is recorded in the book of acts and we know that John lived to see the events of 70AD. Tacitus the Roman historian also recorded some of the events happing in the world at that time
  15. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    You asked me to explain what the ones taken meant and I clearly showed you yet you just dismiss it what I stated can't be dismissed. Matt 24:37-39 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and...
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    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Matthew 24:36-41 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and...
  17. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    Who do the angels gather? The elect Who is the days shortened for? The elect Thus the elect are saved from being killed. Out of 1.2 million people in Jerusalem during the seige only 97 000 survived so if the days weren’t shortened nobody would of survived to tell the story If you think...
  18. Marty fox

    the great Jewish "distress"

    That’s about loosing your salvation it’s about letting your guard down. Satan can’t snatch anyone out of Gods hand Satan can’t break the great chain but if you get to close to a dog on a chain he can still bite you
  19. Marty fox

    What is the sign of the Son of Man?

    We are supposed to be fellow Christians here debating in love and grace to each other there is no need to be condescending as we are on the same side