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Lol...Scripture LITERALLY says, OBEY THOSE (elders, leaders of The Church) THAT RULE OVER YOU which means we are to look to the bishops, pastors (elders, leaders of The Church). And you say anyone that obeys Scripture is really obeying...

Is the Arc in St. Louis named after her because that is the location she was "burned"? :jest: So what you are telling me is the men of The Church falsely accused her and created a false trial and burned her! Those men clearly sinned. Does that mean the doctrine of The Church....Ooops, I mean...

Wow...Such a detailed summary of the "dark ages" of Christianity. You have an incredible grasp and teaching ability of Christian History. Thank you.....

It's CHRISTIAN history and you should learn it from a reliable source instead of your anti-Catholic sources. Just because some cardinals didn't like the outcome of a UNANIMIOUS vote and selected, not ELECTED, a different person as pope, doesn't mean the person the SELECteD was THE Pope of The...

Provide your (reliable) source on this alleged title that a church father gave. You are lacking in your knowledge of Christian History. The title "Catholic" was first used by the church father Saint Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans (circa 110 AD).

Isaiah 8 and specifically vs 20 has NOTHING to do with what we are discussing. But since you think it does, WHO is the THEY in that vs? WHO is the THEY in the final authority for Christian doctrine?

Who is "they"? It seems you have chosen the leadership of the SDA? True or not?

OMG...I have never heard this "cult of virgins"? What is it Behold??? 4 POPES???? WHAT??? OMG.........I should stop being Catholic!! NO, I don't know about my dark ages. PLEASE tell me!! Joan of Arc? Who is that? Did she live in Saint Louis Missouri? :jest:

Lol....All the Reformers said the same thing you are saying. And the Holy Spirit gave all of them a different "biblical understanding' of Scripture. Sooooo was the Holy Spirit confused? Or all the Reformers INCLUDING YOU. AND you just affirmed what I have been saying this entire time. YOU read...

HORRIFIED???? Wow.....!!! How dramatic!! Scripture is the final authority in faith and doctrine????????????? I don't even know what that means. Your SDA men read Scripture. They come up with *salvific doctrine by reading that Scripture. The men of the Catholic Church read Scripture. They come...

Lol Braklite. Quote the post where I said you don't belong to the church. You can't. Wanna know why? Because I never said you don't belong to the church (even though most would say the SDA's are not Christians, I have never said that). What I said is that YOU are not the pillar and foundation...

Maybe I can help here. For one to be an apostate from Christianity one must first be a Christian. If one isn't baptized, then one isn't a Christian. Sooooo I don't get your "No mention of baptism" quip. It makes no sense.

Lol...You do realize that the Reformation divided Christianity? Every man that picks up a bible now thinks that HE knows the truth and starts his own church telling everyone that the Holy Spirit revealed the truth to HIM and that everyone else is wrong. And you think that God wanted that? :IDK...

Thats one I have never heard before. Who are the united unanimous witness of the historic defenders of the true faith? Curious Mary

You crack me up Brakelite. Clearly you don't have an answer. I backed you into a corner with a simple question based on Scripture and you come up with a ridiculous childish response. Do you EVER get tired of being wrong?

Lol...you obey what YOU think is the correct interpretation. You obey ONE man....YOU! Of which Scripture never says to do and actually says obey those that rule over you. You rule over you!!! You deny Scripture. So help me out here. Scripture says, Obey those (men of the church) that rule over...

Lol....You are obeying YOUR interpretation of Scripture and what the men of the SDA tell you to obey. Mmmm.......your .09% of men in this world, who don't worship Him on Sunday like the NT Christians did, are right and the rest of Christianity is wrong?

John 15:5 "without Me ye can do nothing."

How does Hebrews 13:17 and Luke 10:16 work into your theory?

Ok brakelite. I'm going to walk you thru this nice and slow to see if you understand. This is a scenario based on what Scripture says: I come to you and use Scripture to show that I believe that you have sinned against me and beg you to apologize. You disagree with me and my interpretation of...