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  1. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I have not said anything prideful about my charts.
  2. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How could Matthew 24:29-30 have possibly been in 70 AD ? Does history record that all the tribes of the earth saw Jesus coming in the clouds of heaven in power and great glory? 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...
  3. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What do you mean "hide behind" ? On this last chart I posted, for example, I showed the pertinent bible verses for... the start of the 7 years - Daniel 9:27. the tribulation of those days - Matthew 24:29 the 1290 days - Daniel 12:11 what the AoD is - Revelation 13:14-15
  4. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Matthew 24: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. How do you know that...
  5. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    verse 35-36 - the escape from the snare of the day of trouble that will come up all them that dwell on the earth. The day of trouble is the great tribulation that will begin 1335 days before Jesus's return in verse 27. The great tribulation begins with the abomination of desolation setup on...
  6. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Let the Bible speak for itself! Stop imposing your error upon it. (your words right back at you. please stop with the inflaming rhetoric.) When do the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12 take place relative to Jesus's return ?
  7. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, Luke 21:34-36 escape is the anytime rapture view. After the rapture, there will be 1335 days between when the AoD is setup until Jesus's return.
  8. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, that is not what I wrote. The day of the Lord begins by the Antichrist's transgression of desolation act. And shorty thereafter, the great tribulation begins. The ToD act, then the assassination, then the coming back to life, then the statue image, and placed on the temple mount as the...
  9. Douggg

    What's next, and who's implementing it?

    It is because the speaker is presenting the SDA end times view.
  10. Douggg

    What's next, and who's implementing it?

    So that is the summary of what the SDA speaker presented to happen in 2025. Revelation 20:8 is not the Ezekiel 38-39 event. Revelation 20:8 is indicating that the same nations that take part in the Ezekiel 38-39 event will be a part of the nations that take part in Satan's last deception of...
  11. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If you don't read my charts, then how can you say that they are in error ?
  12. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are playing word games. Jesus's second coming is shown on my chart, as is the great tribulation. It is all based on scriptures, that contain the timeframes in the Word of God. Daniel 12:11-12.
  13. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is not me who is avoiding discussing the Word of God end times time frames, but you. You have no charts of your own to demonstrate that you understand how all the events fit together in concert with the time frames given in the Word of God for those events.
  14. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The time frame is 1335 days of the great tribulation.
  15. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The day of the Lord is not a 24 hour period. It will last for eternity. And is comprised of segments. The segments (in order) are, as shown on my chart below... transgression of desolation committed the abomination of desolation setup the great tribulation Jesus's second coming the...
  16. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Because the point is that those time frames of events are inseparable from the day that Jesus returns.
  17. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your question from your post 669. My response: What makes the beginning of the day of the Lord sudden and unexpected is that the world will be saying "peace and safety" thinking it has entered the messianic age. When, about three years into the (false) messianic age, the Antichrist without...
  18. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All of these passages of end times time frames are the Word of God. You are avoiding that part of the sacred text regarding the end times
  19. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You don't have timeline charts and you don't include any of the end times time frames in your posts.
  20. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No it is not. It is very common to those of us who hold the futurist premil view.