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  1. PinSeeker

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Hm. Well, in 2 Timothy 3:16, Paul says that "(a)ll Scripture is breathed out by God," right? So does that have anything to do with oxygenated air? I say no. :) To expound a bit, Scripture was written by many men over many centuries, men inspired ~ which literally means "breathed into" by...
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    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    I'm not really saying anything underhanded with this question, Matthias, but if the question on both occasions was regarding the most famous (fill in the blank) in the world today, Matthias, then why was his answer to the questions "Jesus of Nazareth"? Did he actually think Jesus was in the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    We have no idea of the position of Adam's body when God formed him, Earburner. I think of it as one sweeping act; God spoke him into existence, like very other element of His creation. It is obviously of great importance to know what God created all things, for sure, and that He created...
  4. PinSeeker

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    I'm not "CS;" I have no idea who that is. If you're equating me in some way to the great Clive Staples Lewis, then, well, he was just a man, but I'm deeply humbled. That He was and is. You're so close... :) If Jesus is not God and also man, then no ne has any hope of salvation... there is...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Uh-oh. "Issues"... :) Disagree. Before the Fall, they only knew good. And the verb "knew" there should not be understood as mere cognitive knowledge, but a sort of intimacy with, or proneness to. Remember, God created everything good; He pronounced it all so, including man.. Adam, and then...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Ah yes, so when the Watchtower manufactures exceptions, that's cool. LOL! No hypocrisy there... :) Yeah ~ they have "answers" for everything, BGTF. :) Grace and peace.
  7. PinSeeker

    "The word was a god"?

    Well, to be fair, Tigger is unfortunately not pretending. :) There's another word for it, but that one is not quite so innocuous... :) Grace and peace to you, ByGrace.
  8. PinSeeker

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    LOL! No thanks. I've... kind of been watching one right here... :) Grace and peace to you.
  9. PinSeeker

    "The word was a god"?

    This does not follow from what I posted, Webers_Home. It's quite non sequitur. But to the statement itself, I agree, actually, as any good trinitarian would. But it is quite possible ~ and in Jesus was reality ~ to possess the same nature as the "Spirit Being" (the Father is Spirit, John...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Hmmmm... :) I am thoroughly convinced that man became a living [mortal] soul, and did not receive a soul of any kind, for an eternal existence. I'm... really not sure what kind of distinction you're trying to make, here, Earburner. I'm sure you would agree that this creation of man was before...
  11. PinSeeker

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    So you think. So be it. Yes, you're coherent explanation of your own understanding and position on things would help me to understand where you are on said things. That's kind of how conversation works. But, insult my intelligence as you like; it matters not to me. LOL! He's saying...
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    "The word was a god"?

    A difference without distinction. "Divine hominid"... my goodness. For a time, Christ Jesus was, while in the form of God, in the form of man, as Paul says quite clearly. Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    LOL! Well, if you were even somewhat adept at coherently explaining what you're looking for, then that would certainly help. That's kind of the problem; folks "find" what they want to find, usually. Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    It is, yes, because the Bible is simple. But not simplistic (in either case). Nobody is talking about "two persons," at least not in the simplistic, literal sense (which I'm not sure if you are holding to or not), but in the sense of having two natures/essences, in the case of Jesus the deific...
  15. PinSeeker

    Are there Sins of Imperfection?

    I hope there's burping in heaven. I enjoy a good belch on occasion... My goodness. :)
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Sure. Not to be dismissive at all; agreed. And... not to absolve us of personal responsibility in any way ~ we are to make our calling and election sure, but because it is God who is at work in us to will and work for His good pleasure, as Paul says in Philippians 2:12-13 ~ but God, by His...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You didn't direct this question at me, Earburner, but I'm going to speak to it if I may. All through the Bible, fire is symbolic of God's righteous and holy anger and His judgment. Yes, I believe "they will be consumed by the fire of God," as you say, but I think we understand that very...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    So... Phoneman... I haven't watched it, and don't plan to, but this is pretty much what I've been saying. Yes, the spiritual war has been going full tilt for a long, long time ~ we can observe it happening in this very forum ~ and will continue until Jesus comes back, ramping up just before His...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Sure. Thanks and same to you. Yes, there were false, competing "gospels" even in the first century, and it will continue until Jesus comes back. But Scripture is not corrupted; the Word of our God endures forever. So you think, I understand; we disagree on that. Disagree. Again, there is...
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    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Sure. But not simplistic. I think you're mixing contexts, here, Matthias. I would say there's nothing at odds between the former and the latter. Again, I encourage you to camp out in Philippians 2, specifically verses 5 through 11. Sure, because, as I did, they don't get, at least at...