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We do, actually, but we are do not have the same nature that Adam possessed before the Fall. Free will is not the issue. The state of our heart is. Grace and peace to you.

There is no verse or passage in the Bible that refutes limited atonement. The problem is pretty much always a misunderstanding of what is meant by the idea of limited atonement. Christ's atonement, as I have said many times, is limited in one sense, but unlimited in another. It is unlimited...

Well sure, all the saints failed in a great many ways, just like we all do. We all sin and fall short (way short) of the glory of God all the time. Not to say "God's okay with that" or anything, because He's certainly not. But this is a total shift from what we were discussing. I said, "Yes...

You're more than welcome to your opinion (as if you need that from me or something...). The point remains, there, though, that God surely would have corrected Job in some way if Job had been mistaken regarding his final concession that God's purposes cannot be thwarted. Sure. I'm not sure...

Okay, well we disagree on the will. The crux of the matter at any point in time is the state of the heart, and how we are thus fully inclined to use that free will. And that's really what you're saying here, I think. Think about it. Grace and peace to you.

The New Jerusalem comes down to us, Enoch. Jesus brings it to us in His return (after the final Judgment). Revelation 21 is very clear on that: "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy...

Some mistaken folks think so, yes. But it's not. At all. Paul addresses and heads off that very misunderstanding in Romans 6: "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us...

Right, but it shows ~ incontrovertibly ~ that our part is a result of God having done His part, and that it inevitably follows, again, because of God having done His part. Ezekiel shows us a clear picture of how salvation happens, and the New Testament writers testify over and over again to it...

LOL! Yes, but I think God would have corrected him there if he was mistaken. That's kind of the point of God having just asked him four chapters worth of unanswerable questions. Just a sampling : Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: “Who is this that darkens counsel by...

I sort of disagree with this, JF1. We have free will, but it is in bondage to sin. This is the death we are born into. I know you're aware of this, but some are not. It might be helpful to read what Jesus says to the Jews in John 10:22-29... At that time the Feast of Dedication took place...

In your opinion. But they do. No, you misunderstand what it means for God to have known us before the foundation of the world. 'Known' is used in the sense that it is synonymous with 'loved.' And we love because He first loved us (1 John 4). I absolutely agree, but there is definitely...

LOL... No... :) Well yes, but why do we do these works, KC? Who is really responsible for them? Read here and I think you'll see (unless you have your eyes closed, of course, which seems to be the case): "But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even...

Wow. Just... wow. LOL! Grace and peace to you.

And I would agree with that. Other than he chose ~ for some reason; we are not told why, so we don't know why ~ to disobey God. Obviously, he was created with the ability to do so (God created him, of course), and he did. For some reason. The reason itself, Adam's reason for disobeying...

Well that's a clumsy way of stating it. I would call it merciful and compassionate (because scripture does). This is His amazing grace. But yes, God purposes to do what he purposes to do, and... then... does it. :) Whatever He ordains is right, as the hymn goes. So, oh... yes, it is in...

There is no contradiction. Yes, but he became sinful. And as our first father, this is why we are born with it. Well this is a different question. This question is easily answerable. What we see from scripture is that Eve was deceived by Satan. Adam, who was there with her, could have and...

Clearing up a few things: I'm not teaching that at all. Not in any way, shape, form, or fashion. So no, I'm not "misleading folks." That's Arminianism; that's an Arminian conlusion. Ah yes, the "facts"... :) Well there is no "list"... :) ...but God did choose us Christians in Christ...

And again, I say, the burden is yours to prove that it doesn't. We're going back and forth on this. If you don't want to do that, I understand. But there is absolutely nothing that John Calvin wrote in his Institutes or anywhere else that refutes free-will choice. By omission, it should be...

Scott. I agree that many scriptural passages have subtleties and ramifications beyond what at first may appear on the surface. As for what I said, though, what I asked, you should be able answer yes or no to that. But if you don't want to, I understand. Thanks for your time. Grace and peace...

Three things about the book of Jonah, BibleHighlighter: * The book of Jonah is really about Jonah, not Nineveh. He didn't want to go to Nineveh and preach the Gospel as God told him, because he hated them, and he didn't want the people of Nineveh to receive God's blessings. Jonah even tried...