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What is being preached is gnosticism... Something men like John fought against, and also the disciples of John, even to a few generations down. If this is true, then man is saved by receiving a gospel that is powerless... He is saved by believing a story and yet his life remains unchanged. But...

The reaction I hear alot goes a bit like this: Joshua and Caleb believe that by the power of God and because it is the will of God they can destroy the giants in the land... And here are the ten other spies, answering something like "Oh really? Did you ever kill a giant? You think YOU can kill...

Awesome Shep! :) That is how life is in him! May we all enter in by faith and walk like this! And amen again.... By the Spirit, this is possible!

No, that is not what I mean. Jesus, by his death, has acquired forgiveness for all those who are humble and righteous, but also the power for those who will go there to walk as he walked. And that is the church. 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he...

I think Vashti is saying she has seen 'Christians' who consider that they are saved and not responsible for their sins (they say 'under grace') are not even just, and fair, which many pagans are. They do less then the pagans, and justify themselves in it. She is not justifying this, just trying...

A pagan who doesn't claim to be right with God is better off than a 'christian' who claims to be right with God but lives just like pagans. Atleast there is no pretension! And then there are some pagans who do follow their conscience and love their neighbor!

Yes... That is the result. Rach, understand this is not an attack on your person AT ALL. :) I am speaking of the doctrine, and the doctrine results in lawlessness. Because some have the right heart, they still do right though they believe this doctrine... But teaching it is dangerous!

God has not offered the free pass so many claim he has. He has made a way... The whole idea we can 'own' salvation doesn't make sense... It is the Lord's! We try to save ourselves when we use verses in the Bible to declare ourselves justified. What about all the verses that say things that...

I agree... The disciples spend this life with the brothers, and will spend the next also, in the presence of God. For the disciple, it is all about the Lord. All are looking to the Lord... Together! Ultimately, they spend eternity together because they have the same heart... And we spend it...

This is not about Salvation. :) This is about growing and attaining the full stature of Christ. This cannot be done without paying the price! Paul is said to have died a few times... Stoned, and brought back to life. He gave his whole life for the sake of being one with Christ. Being Christ's...

I would say you have to seek the Father about it. :) Is it a case of Job, being tested? One of, as you said, punishment? I think it could be one of the above...

A humble attitude that tries to be good and hopes God will have mercy is 'ignorant' in a sense... But it is also unassuming. Better to do this than to not even lift a finger to do what is right and yet consider yourself justified before God... And look down on those who don't! Makes me think...

Discipleship is a full time thing, not one or two hours a week. Thus the ones who wants to go through discipleship joins himself full time to the brethren and gives his whole life, 24/7, to the Lord. A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher...

I am not talking about just what anyone needs to be right before God... To be a good Samaritan... Or a righteous Publican... I am speaking of the standard of discipleship, which Jesus clearly lays out. "Unless you hate your mother, father, daughter, son, brother, sister, you cannot be my...

Yes, I agree; the leaving of the old life does not mean the leaving of material possessions. But to be a disciple requires to put God first the same way as the missionary does, only it does not require that you own nothing (because it's not about that). Of course, that is for the one who wishes...

Did you read my post, veteran? :) You must of because you responded part by part, but I'm asking because you're response leaves me quite confused. "The conclusion then is that if we wish to serve the Lord, we must be joined to the brethren, leaving everything we must leave to do so...

We cease from our works not to do nothing... But to do the works prepared in advance. You're saying we are dead with Christ, but actually waiting to be really dead, and THEN we will be raised to newness of life... In the next life. In the meantime, you advocate that we do NOTHING. But we are to...

It is not asceticism in that we are not here to have as little possessions as possible... It is not socialism because everyone is NOT equal. Rather everyone fits as God decides... The focus is not carnal, but spiritual... But for the sake of the spiritual, we do whatever is necessary in the...

That's a difficult question to answer. On the one hand, one could say Paul is giving us insight into a present reality that we do not see, and we must therefore take it by faith. On the other hand, it might be said that this is a reality that one attains to when he is operating in a spiritual...

To be honest, I feel like your springing a trap. You already know what you're going to try and say with this scripture... And I get the impression you want me to nod, 'yes, past tense' so that you can prove it. Am I not getting what your doing, maybe? Yes, it is past tense. And the people are...